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[tstronge]

I'll go with number 5

[oryo]

BUMP!

Can we get more input from our members here.

We have 4395 registered users and only 12 people responded.

[Lance]

I know some may hate this....but I would vote for #7....only because they are other sites where that is the main purpose of the site ( DIME, JTT, etc... ). Here I think that this should be a trading site as stated by the name of the site VHTrading....

[SpiderDan13]

My vote goes to:

1. VH Related Torrents Only, no requirements.

I think it would be an extra resource for those looking to boost collections and/or get a start on a Van Halen collection. As a huge trader in the Metallica community, there are two sites out there that I frequent... one is MetPage (www.metpage.org) who currently has no tracker and focuses on trading & vines. They are in the process of starting a tracker, but that's not scheduled to launch for a few months. The other is Metallifukinca (www.metallifukinca.com) and, while it's a great torrent site, the community isn't as warm as at MetPage. Once MetPage releases their tracker, it will be the best of both worlds (no pun intended) over there and kind of your one stop shop for all things Metallica.

I think that VHTrading has a strong enough community already that a tracker will not hinder anything behind this site and will, in fact, bring some new faces in. Don't get me wrong, since I signed up here, I've talked with some great people and made some great trades... but, to up the ante a bit would be the cherry on top the sundae.

I would say that a .90 ratio would be a good idea to make sure there aren't many hit and runners.

Cheers... Dan

[Lance]

SpiderDan13 wrote: My vote goes to:

1. VH Related Torrents Only, no requirements.

I think it would be an extra resource for those looking to boost collections and/or get a start on a Van Halen collection. As a huge trader in the Metallica community, there are two sites out there that I frequent... one is MetPage (www.metpage.org) who currently has no tracker and focuses on trading & vines. They are in the process of starting a tracker, but that's not scheduled to launch for a few months. The other is Metallifukinca (www.metallifukinca.com) and, while it's a great torrent site, the community isn't as warm as at MetPage. Once MetPage releases their tracker, it will be the best of both worlds (no pun intended) over there and kind of your one stop shop for all things Metallica.

I think that VHTrading has a strong enough community already that a tracker will not hinder anything behind this site and will, in fact, bring some new faces in. Don't get me wrong, since I signed up here, I've talked with some great people and made some great trades... but, to up the ante a bit would be the cherry on top the sundae.

I would say that a .90 ratio would be a good idea to make sure there aren't many hit and runners.

Cheers... Dan

As stated in your post....you say that the trade site of Metallica " Metpage" is alot warmer in the community than the Metallifukinca site which is more of a torrent site. This is kinda my worry about this site. Creating a torrent site is not bad...don't get me wrong...but it might lead to a site that is a site for going there download what you need and nothing else. We will get more members and who knows get more shows ? BUT what you will lose is the comradity and the closeness of the community and family of the forums. The " getting to know your neighbors " with the snail mail trading ....stuff like that. Maybe I am getting old and going off alittle....but its just what I feel about this....

[VHLIVE]

Lance i understand and respect your concerns on this. I like you still snall mail trade and still enjoy it. We have a strong community here at VHT. But, There is a whole new generation of VH Fans that know only Torrenting and we cant ignore that. Nothing is set in stone yet....more people need to voice their opinions so we get a good overall opinion from everyone on this torrent issue.

Metfuc and Metpage are 2 very good sites. Metpage in my opinion is one of the best run sites on the Web. The site staff over there are great and run a tight ship. It's a goal of mine with the leadership of Scott and Ory and our New Mods Dirq and Rad to build a great site like that. A one stop shop of everything VH Related. It will take hard work, but we have to be willing to grow and try new things.

If everyone votes here, we can decide as a community if Torrenting is going to be a part of the future of VHT. It will always be a Trading Site, but adding Torrenting as a resource may not be a bad thing.

[vhroxu2]

I vote for #1 also. Although this is a trade site primarily, having torrents will keep us modern with the times. But there should be limits, with a ratio requirement that's strictly inforced (say 0.50, give back at least half of what you download after so many gigs. In other words, if you download 5 gigs and your ratio isn't 0.50, then you get banned. But this will only work if there is plenty of torrenting activity, so people can keep their ratio up).

I've always preferred to trade through the mail, but I do torrent, especially audio. I think having torrents here is great but I wouldn't want it to overshadow the good ole snail mail trading. There are enough torrent-only sites around. Here we can have the "best of both worlds!" ;)

[Warno]

I vote for #1. While trading does add to the "community" vibe, at least with a torrent you get the show right away and not have to hope that the trader you're dealing with is going to screw you with excuses like "It got lost in the mail" or whatever. Trades can still happen of course but the immediacy of having a show off a torrent is a huge plus. I think if/when the next VH tour ever happens, the torrent traffic will increase big time so maybe the three month membership option might be worth considering as well.

[GGirl]

Warno wrote: I vote for #1. While trading does add to the "community" vibe, at least with a torrent you get the show right away and not have to hope that the trader you're dealing with is going to screw you with excuses like "It got lost in the mail" or whatever. Trades can still happen of course but the immediacy of having a show off a torrent is a huge plus. I think if/when the next VH tour ever happens, the torrent traffic will increase big time so maybe the three month membership option might be worth considering as well.

What ever happened to, "Good things come to those that wait?".

I have nothing against torrents but damn if everyone isn't into instant gratification these days. I just think people are missing out on building connections and friendship by going the sterile route and downloading a majority of the time.

I'm not coming down on you Warno....please don't think that.

[Dirq Van]

Option 1

I see the torrent thing mainly as a service to newbies
You always have hit- and runners..... so what, screw them
For the people who stick around, they will become "friends"
Friends give an take

[SpiderDan13]

Lance wrote: As stated in your post....you say that the trade site of Metallica " Metpage" is alot warmer in the community than the Metallifukinca site which is more of a torrent site. This is kinda my worry about this site. Creating a torrent site is not bad...don't get me wrong...but it might lead to a site that is a site for going there download what you need and nothing else. We will get more members and who knows get more shows ? BUT what you will lose is the comradity and the closeness of the community and family of the forums. The " getting to know your neighbors " with the snail mail trading ....stuff like that. Maybe I am getting old and going off alittle....but its just what I feel about this....
Hey Lance... the thing with Metpage and VHTrading, in my opinion, is that these communities are already build and are already warm. Metfuk was started with one idea in mind and that was the be a tracker, while that's all well and good, that's all that it's known for. To add a tracker to an already awesome community would just be expanding the community and building on it. Personally, I prefer snail mail trading. But, occasionally, it's always nice to see something available to download and/or upload. You're still sharing, just in a different way. Anyways, I definitely don't think a tracker (or lack thereof) would hurt this site in any way shape or form because the site has already become known for what it is... a great place to come and talk about Van Halen. :)

[TJStaar]

I would also vote for #1. I, myself like torrents, I know a lot of people don't. But, as stated previously, this is a VH site, and we should be doing whatever we can to promote VH and distribute the shows.

[Warno]

GGirl wrote: What ever happened to, "Good things come to those that wait?".

I have nothing against torrents but damn if everyone isn't into instant gratification these days. I just think people are missing out on building connections and friendship by going the sterile route and downloading a majority of the time.

I'm not coming down on you Warno....please don't think that.

No worries GG. No offense taken.

I see these boards as the interactive part of this community. On a daily basis when there isn't a lot of trading going on or even when VH isn't on tour, there's still lots of reasons to come here. Personal connections are built through daily postings and PMs instead of only through a trade where the two parties involved would only communicate a few times setting up and executing the deal. With that in mind, the torrents allow for everyone to get the shows they want (getting shows is the reason we all came here to begin with) in short order while still maintaining that daily community interaction we all value so I look at it as (no pun intended) the best of both worlds. Being an IT professional, I'm always looking to use the current technologies to their fullest. Torrenting takes the postal service factor out of the equation and as the Chicago area was just named as having the worst postal service in the country, I'm all for using alternative means.

[GGirl]

Warno wrote:

No worries GG. No offense taken.

I see these boards as the interactive part of this community. On a daily basis when there isn't a lot of trading going on or even when VH isn't on tour, there's still lots of reasons to come here. Personal connections are built through daily postings and PMs instead of only through a trade where the two parties involved would only communicate a few times setting up and executing the deal. With that in mind, the torrents allow for everyone to get the shows they want (getting shows is the reason we all came here to begin with) in short order while still maintaining that daily community interaction we all value so I look at it as (no pun intended) the best of both worlds. Being an IT professional, I'm always looking to use the current technologies to their fullest. Torrenting takes the postal service factor out of the equation and as the Chicago area was just named as having the worst postal service in the country, I'm all for using alternative means.

That comment alone could cause me to change my stance on this issue. lol

I wholeheartedly agree that posting and PMing via this site helps build relations. I guess the only thing I would have to say is that trading lets me know what kind of a person I am dealing with. People can present themselves anyway they want but if they follow through on a trade or go the distance to make a trade happen tells me even more.

Like I said, I have nothing against torrents...I just don't think the door should be shut on doing things "old school".

[kite]

option one sounds ok to me

i was one asking for other torrents seeding here because you all traders and there are good other boots of different bands like you all know

but i agree with lots of you that say let's specialized