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BadassMOFO
Joined: 2008-01-13
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Location: RAIDING DIRQ VAN's FRIDGE!!!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: this may sound like a dumb question... |
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| but are checksums and fingerprints the same thing?? I was under the assumption they were. :confused: |
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Viper
Joined: 2007-02-08
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Location: Wisconsin
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| This may sound like a dumb answer but...........................................I have NO freakin' clue what you just said!! :D |
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BadassMOFO
Joined: 2008-01-13
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Location: RAIDING DIRQ VAN's FRIDGE!!!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Viper wrote: This may sound like a dumb answer but...........................................I have NO freakin' clue what you just said!! :D
It's not as 'out there' as it sounds. When trading/torrenting audio and video boots they are to be accompanied with file containing a computer generated mathematical sum. I use a program called MD5 summer. I just noticed when comparing those sums to F.L.A.C. fingerprints (a simular looking sum for lossless F.L.A.C. audio files) with a boot I uploaded today they do not match. I guess i never paid enough attention to them until now. I checked other boots and they do not match either. Maybe they are two different things altogether? :confused: |
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frankm
Joined: 2003-04-01
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Location: Wisconsin
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BadassMOFO wrote: but are checksums and fingerprints the same thing?? I was under the assumption they were. :confused:
There are no dumb questions ...
Checksums are calculated using the entire file. FingerPrints are calculated using only the audio portion of the file. If the Header information on a file changes the Checksum will be different but the FingerPrint will not change. Some argue that the FingerPrint must be better since it only looks at the audio portion of the file. Personally I don't know why you'd go about converting the file from one format to another, except for personal listening. Once you have the file and it is good ... leave it alone! I know some people have converted SHN to FLAC to sontinue to share and that just doesn't make sense to me. Once you have a good file ... leave well enough alone. Personally, I use both Checksums AND FingerPrints. I also don't convert files except for personal listening I always share the original files in the original formats.
I hope that helps. |
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nords
Joined: 2008-01-04
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Location: NY
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Cool, thanks for the tech info! |
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gatomike26
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| Ive done checksums but what program do you use for the audio fineger prints? |
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asdfanofpriest
Joined: 2007-06-21
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Location: Western USA
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gatomike26 wrote: Ive done checksums but what program do you use for the audio fineger prints?
You Can use Traders Little Helper... |
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oryo
Joined: 2002-02-02
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Location: California
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frankm wrote: BadassMOFO wrote: but are checksums and fingerprints the same thing?? I was under the assumption they were. :confused:
There are no dumb questions ...
Checksums are calculated using the entire file. FingerPrints are calculated using only the audio portion of the file. If the Header information on a file changes the Checksum will be different but the FingerPrint will not change. Some argue that the FingerPrint must be better since it only looks at the audio portion of the file. Personally I don't know why you'd go about converting the file from one format to another, except for personal listening. Once you have the file and it is good ... leave it alone! I know some people have converted SHN to FLAC to sontinue to share and that just doesn't make sense to me. Once you have a good file ... leave well enough alone. Personally, I use both Checksums AND FingerPrints. I also don't convert files except for personal listening I always share the original files in the original formats.
I hope that helps.
I agree there is no dumb questions cause I'm gonna learn from this post also..Ory |
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funkndub
Joined: 2002-01-12
Posts: 131
Location: San Francisco
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frankm wrote: BadassMOFO wrote: but are checksums and fingerprints the same thing?? I was under the assumption they were. :confused:
There are no dumb questions ...
Checksums are calculated using the entire file. FingerPrints are calculated using only the audio portion of the file. If the Header information on a file changes the Checksum will be different but the FingerPrint will not change. Some argue that the FingerPrint must be better since it only looks at the audio portion of the file. Personally I don't know why you'd go about converting the file from one format to another, except for personal listening. Once you have the file and it is good ... leave it alone! I know some people have converted SHN to FLAC to sontinue to share and that just doesn't make sense to me. Once you have a good file ... leave well enough alone. Personally, I use both Checksums AND FingerPrints. I also don't convert files except for personal listening I always share the original files in the original formats.
I hope that helps.
Thats good knowledge. Always wondered about that myself. Thanks!!! |
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