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[rks1966]

Ok, I know it's July, but football is right around the corner! So with that in mind, I've set up a Fantasy Football league for those interested on here. I have it set at 10 teams, but if more than that are interested, I'll expand it ( I think that 12 is the max on Yahoo) So, the first 10-12 people to send me a PM, I'll send you the league name and password so you can get in,and let's have some FUN with it....it doesn't have to be for money, just bragging rights! I'll keep posting updates on here as to when we are close to full, so everyone can have time to set their players before the draft time. I'll be in touch with everyone that PM's me as soon as I can! If you post a reply to here, I'll try to catch it as well, but don't hold me to it. So whose going to be the Van Halen Fantasy Football Champ???

[oryo]

Did you ever get a response for this??? I'd be interested if it's free and bragging rights.

[liquid_steel_az]

Let's do it! :dance:

[oryo]

I will be hosting a VHT FANTASY FOOTBALL League through www.cbssportsline.com for free to our members... No $$$ just for fun and bragging rights. We will need 10-12 teams so the league can happen.

If you are interested please feel free to send me a PM and I will send you all the info you need.

I decided to not do Yahoosports because you had to pay $9.99 if you wanted to see live scoring and stats and at Cbssportsline I was told all this is for free.

I set the draft to be auto draft and for Sat. Sept 1st, 2007

If this sounds like fun PM me to join...Ory

[oryo]

CBS SportsLine.com Fantasy Rules

Home · League Rules

Introduction CBS SportsLine.com Fantasy Football 2007
The Commissioner

Leagues Signing Up
Eligibility
Live Draft Leagues or Automated Draft Leagues
Private Leagues or Public Leagues
Winners Leagues
League Joining Deadline
Refund Policy

Draft Live Draft Instructions
Automated Draft Instructions

Teams Overview
Roster Requirements

Scoring Point Values
Wins & Losses
Statistics Corrections

Schedule & Playoffs Regular Season
Playoffs

Lineup Changes Weekly Lineups
Deadline to Change Status

Adding and Dropping Players Free Agents
Waivers
Waiver Rank
Waiver Schedule
Preseason
Undroppable Players

Trades Trade Deadline
Trade Approval Process
Multi-player Trades

Live Draft Leagues or Automated Draft Leagues
Your Fantasy Football team will acquire its players through a draft. CBS SportsLine.com leagues can draft players in one of two ways: a Live Draft or an Automated Draft. During a Live Draft, all 12 league participants ("owners") log in to an on-line "draft room" at a scheduled time. Each owner, in draft order, has just 90 seconds to select an available NFL player for his or her team. This kind of draft is exciting but extremely fast-paced and recommended for experienced owners. See "Live Draft Instructions" section below.

If you are a beginner, or are unable to schedule a block of two to four hours for a live draft, you may prefer to participate in an Automated Draft league. At your convenience you will simply arrange players, using Rank Lists provided by CBSII, in the order that you'd like those players selected for your team. The Automated Draft is then processed using your lists. The highest-ranked player on your lists who is available, and fits the roster needs of your team, will be selected for you during each round of the automated draft. See "Automated Draft Instructions" section below.

Private Leagues or Public Leagues
If you know all the owners who are going to be in your league, or you want to recruit individuals, you may want to join or create a Private league. The person who creates a Private league sets a password and other owners use that password to join the league. If you already know all of the owners in your league and want complete control of your league's rules, you should also check out the CBS SportsLine.com Football Commissioner, our powerful and fully-customizable stats service. Public Leagues are open to anybody. If you create or join a Public league, you will have no control over who joins the league. Be sure to read the description of the league you want to join to make sure it is suitable for you. Winners Leagues
If you played a CBS SportsLine.com fantasy league (excluding Commissioner leagues) in a previous year and won your league, you may be eligible to play in an exclusive Winners League. To create or join a Winners League, you must use the same SportsLine ID you used when you won your league. League Joining Deadline
You can sign up and join a league anytime up to 11:59:59 PM ET on 10/11/2007. All leagues are required to have 12 participants, or team "owners." For leagues that draft after 09/06/2007, your league's start date will begin with the next official scoring period. The last day of game play is 12/24/07. Refund Policy
After you sign up for the Contest, you may receive a full refund of the purchase price up to 48 hours prior to your league's draft date. All other refund requests will be subject to the sole discretion of CBSII. Draft

Automated Draft Instructions
As with a Live Draft, after creating or joining an Automated Draft league, you will have the opportunity to rank all the eligible NFL players. However, in an Automated Draft you can organize 6 Rank Lists - one list for each Fantasy position: QB, RB, WR, TE, K, DST. You will rank the players on each list in the order of your preference, with the player you'd most like to draft being #1 on a list, and so on.
You will assign these rank lists to each of the 14 rounds of your draft, based on the position you would like to draft in each round (i.e. If you feel QBs represent the strongest position, then assign the QBs rank list to the first round; if you feel RBs represent the next strongest position, assign the RBs rank list to the second round, and so on.)

As in the Live Draft, you are not required to make changes to our rank lists. If you choose not to, our default lists, which reflect the rankings of our Fantasy experts, will be used. However, if you decide to organize the lists yourself, you will have up to 24 hours prior to your draft day to do so. When there are 24 hours left until your draft day, the rank lists will be closed and considered ready for the draft.

On the morning of the scheduled draft day, an Automated Draft will be conducted. Players will automatically be drafted for you using your Rank Lists. An e-mail will be sent to each owner after the draft has been completed.

Please refer to the table below (each number in the table refers to each team's draft position for that round) for the draft order for the full 14 rounds of the draft. You'll see that the order staggers each round of the draft (Team #1 has the first pick in round 1; Team #6 has the first pick in round 2, etc.) so that each team will have the opportunity to draft 1st in a round at least once.
Round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Team 1 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8
Team 2 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9
Team 3 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10
Team 4 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11
Team 5 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12
Team 6 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1
Team 7 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2
Team 8 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3
Team 9 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4
Team 10 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5
Team 11 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7 2 9 4 11 6
Team 12 12 7 2 9 4 11 6 1 8 3 10 5 12 7

In the preseason, waiver priority immediately after the draft will be the reverse order of the first round of the draft. So Team #12 will have the highest waiver priority and Team #1 the lowest waiver priority. Teams

Teams Overview
Each CBS SportsLine.com Fantasy Football league will consist of 12 teams, divided into three divisions of 4 teams each. The divisions will be called: East, Central, and West. Each team will consist of 14 NFL players. Owners may select a starting lineup each week from these 14 players. The chart below lists the required number of players at each position for the 'starting lineup' and the 'draft'.
Note: Individual defensive players are not drafted; rather, you will draft an NFL team's entire defensive/special teams unit. For the purpose of roster limits, each NFL defensive/special teams unit will count as one "player."

Roster Requirements
Position Starting Lineup* Auto Draft** Live Draft***
Quarterback (QB) 1 2 1 or 2
Running Back (RB) 2 3 2, 3, 4, or 5
Wide Receiver (WR) 3 4 3, 4, or 5
Tight End (TE) 1 2 1 or 2
Kicker (K) 1 1 1 or 2
Defensive Team (DST) 1 2 1 or 2
All Positions **** 9 14 14

PLEASE NOTE: The Roster Requiremments have changed.

*You are allowed as many as 9 players in your starting lineup, according to the positional requirements listed in the table above. However the numbers in the "starting lineup" column represent the "maximum" number of players you may have at each position. You may use fewer players than the number listed at each position without penalty.

** Team owners that elect to participate in a league with an 'Automated Draft' will have their rosters populated according to the criteria listed in the 'Roster Requirements' table. Players will be drafted based upon their order within each team owner's Rank List and position within the draft. For more information, please refer to the Automated Draft Instructions listed above. *** Team owners participating in a 'Live Draft' league will be required to select a total of 14 players based upon the criteria defined in the 'Roster Requirements' table above. Team owners may draft up to 2 Quarterbacks, 5 Running Backs, 5 Wide Receivers, 2 Tight Ends, 2 Kickers, and/or 2 Defensive Teams; however, the maximum total number of players a team may draft cannot exceed 14. For more information, please refer to the Live Draft Instructions listed above. **** Please note that, throughout the season, your overall roster is not restricted to a specific number of players at each position. Once the draft is over, you can carry, in reserve, as many or as few players at each position as you like, as long as your overall roster does not exceed 14 players. Scoring

Point Values
Each week your team will compete against another team in your league in a head-to-head matchup. During a matchup, each of the players in your 'starting lineup' ('active' players) for that week will earn points based on their actual statistics from NFL games. The charts below list the statistics and their corresponding point values.

Offensive Statistic QB, WR, RB, TE, K
Passing, Rushing or Receiving Touchdown (PaTD, RuTD,ReTD) 6 points
Passing Yards(PaYD) 1 point for every 25 yards
Rushing Yards(RuYD) 1 point for every 10 yards
Receiving Yards(ReYD) 1 point for every 10 yards
2 point conversion(Pa2P, Ru2P, Re2P) 2 points
Passing Interception(PaInt) -2 points
Fumble Lost, including ST plays (FL) -2 points
Field Goal(FG) 0-49 yards = 3 points
50+ yards = 5 points
Extra Point(XP) 1 point
Defensive Statistic Defense
Total Defensive/ Special Teams Touchdown (DTD) 6 points
Safety(STY) 2 points
Interception(Int) 2 points
Defensive/ST Fumble Recovered (DFR) 2 points
Sack(SACK) 1 point
Points Against, Total Points Scored (PA) 0-6 = 8 points
7-13 = 6 points
14-20 = 4 points
21-27 = 2 points
28+ = 0 points
Yards Allowed(YDS) 0-49 = 12 points
50-99 = 10 points
100-149 = 8 points
150-199 = 6 points
200-249 = 4 points
250-299 = 2 points
300+ = 0 points

Wins & Losses
For each head-to-head matchup, the team with the greater number of points will earn a Win and the team with the lesser number a Loss. During the regular season, if two teams have the same number of points, each team will get a Tie. During the playoffs, there are no ties. The team with the highest number of points scored by its 'reserve' (bench) players in that playoff game will be the winner. If this doesn't break the tie, then the team with the higher playoff seed gets the Win.

NOTES
Offensive Scoring (QB, RB, WR, TE) Any offensive player will receive points for any offensive statistics he accumulates. Scoring will be calculated according to the following example: If a QB throws for 200 yards and 2 TDs; rushes for 20 yards and 1 TD; and has 25 yards receiving, his point total for the week would be:
3 TDs = 18 points, 200yds Passing = 8 points, 20yds Rushing = 2 points,
25yds receiving = 2 points; or 30 total points for the week.
Defensive / Special Team scoring Your defense is awarded points when any one of its members generates either a TD, INT, fumble recovery, safety or sack. Your defense is also awarded points for a kickoff or punt return that results in a TD. For instance, if your active defense is the Saints, and Reggie Bush returns a punt for a TD, you get 6 points. In the same situation, a team using Bush as an active RB would NOT be awarded points.
Fumbles Lost by a player on special teams or defense will lose 2 points if they turn the ball over to the opposing team. For instance, if you have Reggie Bush active at RB and he fumbles the ball away at any time while he is on the field, your team will lose 2 points. This includes a fumble lost while returning a punt, kick, interception (if your RB were playing defense) or while on offense at RB.
Defensive Points Against will take into account ALL the points allowed by the team as a whole. This includes points scored against the offense (TD from an interception, safeties, etc.) and special teams (punt return for a TD) as well as those scored against the defense.
Defensive Touchdowns are any touchdowns scored by the defensive team. This includes fumble returns and interception returns.
Special Teams Touchdowns are touchdowns scored by punt returns, kickoff returns or returns of blocked kicks or punts.
To calculate the Total Yards Allowed, simply add the other team's Total Rushing and Total Passing Yards gained.
Rounding will NOT be used when calculating points from statistics. For example, 49 yards rushing will result in 4 points, not 5.
Statistics Corrections
Following the completion of each week's games, all statistics and point totals are verified, and corrections are made where necessary. However, all statistics and point totals for the week are considered FINAL as of Wednesday. If a stat correction is announced for the previous weekend's games on Wednesday or later, it will not be included in our statistics and your official Fantasy scoring will be based on the original statistic. Schedule & Playoffs

Regular Season
The first 14 weeks of the NFL season represent the regular season for CBS SportsLine.com Fantasy Football leagues. During these 14 weeks, each team will play the other teams in its division twice each, and they will play teams in the other divisions once each. When the draft is complete, you can see your team's specific schedule by clicking the Schedule link. Playoffs
When the 14-game regular season ends, 4 teams from the league will make the playoffs: the three division leaders (the team with the best win/loss record in each division) and a wildcard team, which is the team with the best win/loss record in the league, excluding the 3 division leaders. The division leader with the best record going into the playoffs will be the #1 seed, and the #1 seed will play the wildcard (seed #4) in the first playoff match in NFL Week 15. The other division leaders will be seeded #2 and #3, and will also face each other in week 15. If there is a tie for a division lead, the following tie-breakers* will be used:

Division Record
YTD Points Scored
If there is a tie for a Wildcard spot, the following tie-breakers will be used:

YTD Points Scored
Points Against
*NOTE: For leagues whose season started with NFL week 2 or later, the only tiebreaker used will be YTD points scored.
Playoff Schedule
NFL Week 15
NFL Week 16
Week 16 Results
#1 vs. #4 Winner #1-#4 vs.
Winner #2-#3 Winner: Champion
Loser: Runner Up
#2 vs. #3

For teams that do not qualify for the playoffs, the season will effectively end. No further add/drop transactions will be permitted for any team that does not make the playoffs, or for any team that is eliminated from the playoffs. Lineup Changes

Weekly Lineups
Each week, owners have the opportunity to select their starting lineup for the coming week. If an owner doesn't set a lineup before the weekly lineup deadline (explained in the "Deadline to Change Status" section below), the owner's lineup from the previous week will be used. Deadline to Change Status
An owner may change the status of the players on his/her team (i.e., "active" or "reserve") up to 5 minutes before a player's NFL team is scheduled to start. While there are benefits to last minute research, please play it safe and make changes well before this 5-minute window arrives. CBSII will not be responsible if your watch or clock and our system clock are not synchronized. Please note that, if 9 of your players were "active" and played on Sunday, you will not be able to change the status of one of your "reserves" to "active" on Monday even though the player didn't play yet.

Adding and Dropping Players Free Agents
Throughout the season you may want to improve your roster by adding available free agents and dropping players who are not performing up to your expectations. You can submit a free agent request at any time. With the exception of requests for players on Waivers (discussed below) free agent moves are first-come, first-served and are executed immediately. With only two exceptions, there are no limits to the number of Add/Drops you can request, nor are there any transaction fees.
The first exception is when an owner drops his entire team or a significant number of players, also known as "team dropping". Team dropping has a negative impact on the league and as such, any owner who elects to drop his team shall be subject to immediate removal from the league. Players selected from waivers or added from free agency that were part of a team drop may be reversed at our discretion. In such move reversals, the waiver ranks will not be reset. CBS SportsLine.com's Fantasy Football uses weekly lineups, so any changes made may go into effect for the following week's games.
The second exception is abuse of the waivers process. This is when a team owner adds then drops a series of players, putting those players on waivers and making them inaccessible to other team owners. Such an action could result in forfeiture of points as well as that team owner being blocked from making any additional add/drops for the remainder of the season.
If either of these situations occurs within your league, please contact CBSII through the Help Center as soon as possible. Waivers
To provide an equal opportunity for all owners to add players to their roster, a Waivers process is used. Requests for players that are on Waivers are not executed immediately, but are put in a pending status.
All players will be placed on Waivers at the start of games every Sunday afternoon, at 12:55 PM ET during the course of the NFL season. If there are NFL games scheduled for Thursday or Saturday, only the players from those teams will be placed on Waivers five (5) minutes prior to the start of their respective games.

Any player that is new to the player pool will be placed on Waivers, and subject to the league's Waiver process.

The Waiver process allows multiple teams to request the same players. Most weeknights between midnight and 6:00:00 AM ET, CBSII will process all of the pending requests. The order in which these requests are processed is based on the Waiver Rank of each team. The table below lists when an NFL player is on Waivers and for how long.

Waiver Conditions
NFL Player Status On Waivers Until
Free Agent while NFL games are in progress Midnight Tuesday/Wednesday to 6:00:00 AM ET Wednesday morning.
Waivers will never run on days NFL games are played. You can request players while games are in progress, but the first waivers run of the week will always be Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, so Wednesday is the earliest day you'd be awarded a player in any week.
Released during a waiver process The next waiver process (usually 1 day later, but see Waiver Schedule).
Ex.: Owner requests Player A on waivers and drops Player B. During waiver process, owner is awarded Player A, and Player B is placed on waivers until the next waiver process.
Released during Free Agent Add/Drop The second waiver process after the Add/Drop.
Ex.: Owner drops a player Tuesday afternoon. The player dropped is on waivers until the waiver process that runs between midnight Wednesday/Thursday and 6:00:00 AM ET Thursday.

Waiver Rank
During the waiver process, pending transactions are processed in an order determined by each team's waiver rank. The team with a waiver rank of 1, considered the highest, will get its first requested player. After the transaction is executed, the team's waiver rank is then set to 12 (last), and all other teams move up one. The waiver ranks are reset once each week after standings are updated on Monday night/Tuesday morning. The last-place team (based on won/lost record) will be given the waiver rank of 1, down to the first-place team, which gets the waiver rank of 12. We'll use the following criteria to break any ties for waiver rank:
Waiver Rank
1. Worst Won/Lost Record
2. Least Points Scored YTD
3. Most Points Scored Against YTD

If a team's highest pending transaction becomes invalid because another team received the requested player, the transaction gets deleted and the team's next waiver request, if one exists, becomes that team's highest. If a team doesn't have any pending transactions because all players requested were taken by other teams, or the owner simply didn't request any players, there isn't any penalty and the Waiver Rank will not be changed for that week. Waiver Schedule
The waiver process will run for the first time each week between midnight Tuesday/Wednesday and 6:00:00 AM Wednesday which is approximately 24 hours after the completion of Monday night's game. In a typical week where there are not any Thursday or Saturday games, the waiver process will run every night through Saturday night (the last process will be early Sunday morning).
If there are Thursday or Saturday games, the players involved in those games will be placed on Waivers five minutes prior to the start of their game and will not be eligible to be added to a team's roster until the first Waivers process of the following week runs.

Preseason
Once a league's draft is completed, players can be added and dropped subject to the Free Agent and Waiver rules discussed above. The initial Waiver Rank after the draft will be the reverse of the Draft Order. After the draft, all players not drafted will be placed on Waivers. The waiver process will run each night, 7 days a week, starting the day after the draft through the Wednesday night before opening day (Thursday, September 6, 2007). Undroppable Players
To maintain the integrity of your league, you will be prevented from dropping certain star NFL players throughout the season. CBSII, as commissioner of all CBS Sportsline.com Fantasy Football leagues, will decide - in its sole discretion - which NFL players are undroppable. If there are players we've deemed undroppable on your roster, they will not be displayed on the Add/Drop page for your team. You may appeal to CBSII for permission to drop an undroppable player; however, CBSII will make the final decision on all undroppable player requests. Appeals can be sent via the Help Center and should include the names of the players you want to add and drop. Trades

Trade Deadline
Throughout the season, owners can trade players with other teams. In an effort to keep the integrity of the league, a deadline for trades will be imposed at 11:59:59 PM ET Wednesday, 11/14/2007. No trades will be allowed after that time. Any trades accepted by two parties before the deadline will be subject to the trade approval process. Trade Approval Process
In an effort to prevent collusion among owners, and to ensure fair competition, a trade approval process is used. After two owners agree to a trade, the trade will be put in a pending status for at least 24 hours. If four owners in your league object to the trade within the pending time period, the trade will not be executed, but will go to the Commissioner for evaluation. Example: a trade made at 5:00:00 PM Tuesday will not execute at 5:00:00 PM Wednesday, but between midnight and 6:00:00 AM ET Thursday, assuming four owners do not object before then.
All trades between owners must be made at least 24 hours before the first game day of the week and not be disputed by four owners in order to be effective for the current week. If four owners object to a trade, the Commissioner can overrule the objection but the trade may be made effective for the following week. If you make a trade offer, be sure to monitor the status of that offer (on the My Team, Trade page) as the weekly lineup deadline approaches, to ensure that acceptance of that trade does not cause your team to have an illegal lineup for the current week's games.

Multi-player Trades
Owners can enter unbalanced multi-player trades such as a 3 player for 1 player trade. A trade that results in an illegal roster will be allowed, however you will be required to enter the necessary transactions to correct your roster before your lineup is due for the coming week. If your roster is not legal by the weekly deadline, you will receive zero points for that particular week. Sportsmanship

[oryo]

liquid_steel_az has joined our VH TRADING 2007 Fantasy Football League and is all signed up at www.cbssportsline.com.

Iron Mike has said he will join in too.

I sent PM's to all the members who played in the VHTRADING 2006 Fantasy League and hoping to get 12 teams going.

2 signed up and 10 more spots left.

If your interested send me a PM and I'll send you ll the info to join in..Ory

[oryo]

jfrey42 has said he will join in on the fun.

These are the people who are in:

Oryo
liquid_steel_az
Iron Mike
jfrey42

8 spots left!!

[oryo]

Just added to our VH TRADING 2007 Fantasy Football:

nunobaker
Blu
Coolbeans9
Zambdrvr

Waiting to hear from 4 people still.

There are 4 spots left in the VH TRADING 2007 Football Fantasy league... If your interested send me a PM and I'll send you all the info.. No $$$ just for fun and bragging rights.

[oryo]

These are the teams that have signed up at www.cbssportsline.com

Jeff H: Lake Erie Lightning
Wes: House of Pain
Adam: Pacman is Innocent
Silvano: Zambdrvr Cowboys
Michael: Motley Boys
Ory: Damage Inc.

We have 2 more people who said they would play and I'm waiting to hear from a few more... We need 12 teams for the Fantasy League to happen.

If anybody wants to play please PM me... Ory

[oryo]

These people just PM'd me and said they are in:

GA5150
ETZ

Still waiting to hear back from Blu.

[oryo]

These are the teams we have signed up at Cbs Sports Line:

Jeff: Lake Erie Lightning
Wes: House of Pain
Rodney: GA5150
brian: steelhalen
Adam: Pacman is Innocent
Silvano: Zambdrvr Cowboys
Michael: Motley Boys
Oryo: Damage Inc.

4 Spots Left!!! Still waiting to hear from a couple of people.

Anybody interested please PM me and I'll send you info..Ory

[jfrey42]

I'm in! Come on guys, lets fill it up and have some fun!

[liquid_steel_az]

^BUMP!!

Come on guys, we still need 4 more teams!!!

:dance: :dance: :dance:

[TopJimmy78]

Hey guys I would be interested in joining :thumb:

[oryo]

These people sent me a PM that they want to join in on the fun:

Blu
TopJimmy78
Ford Fairlane

I sent you all the info you need to join the league and make sure to do it ASAP.... I'm just trying to fill the spots in so if you put it off and somebody else wants in and they register before you then they are in and your out.

As of right now there are 4 spots left until these 3 join in and sign up... Once they do that we just need 1 more to join in so the league will be complete.

The Auto Draft is set for next Saturday Sept. 1st and we need our 12 teams to have league go through.

Remember this is an Auto Draft and you need to have your players ranked by positions before the draft or if not I think Cbssportsline will draft what they have ranked and pick for you... I'm not 100% sure but try to rank your players by postion.

We had a great time last season with the 2006 VHTRADING FOOTBALL FANTASY and can't wait to get my sorry ass team for this season.

PM me if anybody wants to fill the last roster spot...