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unchainedheart



Joined: 2005-12-03
Posts: 577
Location: laval,canada

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Another bootleg seller  

Look at his Van Halen boot,a lot of them comes from here i'm pretty sure,even some artwork.

http://www.stellarproducts.info/servlet/StoreFront
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VHDrummer



Joined: 2005-06-21
Posts: 964
Location: Royal Oak, MI

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject:  

Looks like jasona's/steecoe's Roth show from 8/19/06 made the cut. :uhoh: :mad:
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sickman



Joined: 2007-10-15
Posts: 239

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject:  

Gotta love how theses idiots mix the 2 era's. For a dvd from the 07 Worcester show they use the ring logo for the disc picture. I noticed NYCBC does this too. Fuckers.
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oryo



Joined: 2002-02-02
Posts: 5854
Location: California

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject:  

With all the torrent sites it's so easy just to get all this and turn around and sell copies to people who have no clue that you can get these for free.. It's sad!
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LEDZEPZOSO



Joined: 2004-06-26
Posts: 213
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject:  

The site is also one of "ads by google" that is on this board
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macdon22shipp



Joined: 2003-01-07
Posts: 2478
Location: Winnipeg Canada

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject:  

Artwork is definately from here. Used my Anaheim art but that doesn't really bother me. Really should put a watermark on the covers though but i want you guys to have it with no watermark.

Mike
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gatomike26



Joined: 2005-07-20
Posts: 95

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject:  

I think if your into band and like them enough at this stage in the game to buy bootlegs,it's 2008 but are not aware of torrents and don't trade or know you can use the computer to get bootlegs for free it's your fault.

I have not bought bootlegs in years I remember the early 90s when it was over 20 dollars for a crappy bootleg vhs or way more for a cd.For all the money I spent on them back in the day,I have got so many for free from trading and torrents that I don't feel so bad about it anymore.

I'm curious how much these guys still make.It's not like back in the day when this stuff was all over ebay and torrents were not readily available.
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eruption1962



Joined: 2008-01-06
Posts: 177
Location: SoCal

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject:  

macdon22shipp wrote: Artwork is definately from here. Used my Anaheim art but that doesn't really bother me. Really should put a watermark on the covers though but i want you guys to have it with no watermark.

Mike

JESUS CHRIST! Almost every show I did artwork for is on his website, as well...

As Mike puts it...I really don't mind, but at least use my disc art too...LOL.
All kidding aside, I thought that the 'selling thing' was pretty much extinct...
I know NYC bitch Committee is still doing their thing...but apparently there are others...WTF :sus:
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VHDrummer



Joined: 2005-06-21
Posts: 964
Location: Royal Oak, MI

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject:  

But at least NYCBC film their own shows.
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eruption1962



Joined: 2008-01-06
Posts: 177
Location: SoCal

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject:  

VHDrummer wrote: But at least NYCBC film their own shows.

Good point!
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sickman



Joined: 2007-10-15
Posts: 239

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject:  

VHDrummer wrote: But at least NYCBC film their own shows.

True, but they sell the shows other people film and trade FREELY too.
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asdfanofpriest



Joined: 2007-06-21
Posts: 725
Location: Western USA

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject:  

sickman wrote: VHDrummer wrote: But at least NYCBC film their own shows.

True, but they sell the shows other people film and trade FREELY too.

They also Trade their videos, for other videos from the same tour. (Van Halen 07 DVD for Van Halen 07 DVD)
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oryo



Joined: 2002-02-02
Posts: 5854
Location: California

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject:  

This seller is a member here and probably a member at JTT and all the other torrent sites.. It's just hard to find out who this person is... If I do find out who he/she is they will be banned here.

Mike,
Try doing watermarking like I did and this way sellers won't like this HUGE watermark across the artwork and send the artwork to members you trust without the watermarking. I know it sucks but this will discourage sellers using your artwork with DVD sold.

I remember seeing one of my artwork with the wathermark across the entire artwork still being sold on Ebay with the DVD.. Sellers don't have any shame!

Quote: True, but they sell the shows other people film and trade FREELY too.
They must of made some sort a deal to get this footage from people or these people send them the footage cause they are naive.
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sickman



Joined: 2007-10-15
Posts: 239

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject:  

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Quote: True, but they sell the shows other people film and trade FREELY too.
They must of made some sort a deal to get this footage from people or these people send them the footage cause they are naive.[/quote]

My guess is they belong to every torrent site/ trade site and get their dvd's from there.
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Decatone



Joined: 2004-08-23
Posts: 971
Location: UK

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject:  

asdfanofpriest wrote: sickman wrote: VHDrummer wrote: But at least NYCBC film their own shows.

True, but they sell the shows other people film and trade FREELY too.

They also Trade their videos, for other videos from the same tour. (Van Halen 07 DVD for Van Halen 07 DVD)

If you trade with nybc, you have to except the fact that what you trade... they will sell, simple as that. So what your effectively doing is supplying stock for them to profit! Granted some people will not buy a show because of the cost, but you should think of what your trading with and the origins of the show... if it's say a Radikal prod (who does his stuff for the free trade community) then your giving it to someone to sell!!! I suppose the only sure fire way of trading with a seller is to trade something you have totally originated yourself.
I actually think that nybc don't get their stuff from downloads etc like most (nearly all) sellers do, I reckon due to the fact that they film so many shows themselves, people are throwing stuff at them to get what they film in exchange.

Personally I've never had an issue with nybc, but would always buy rather than trade, just seems the safest way to protect the free traders hard work. I see nybc's name pop up a lot here, but without them there would be a lot of shows missing from our collections, so although I'm against selling and sellers, I do have to give props to what they do with their OWN shows.

Btw asdfanofpriest, this is not aimed at you mate, it's just a general observation about trade/sell. :thumb:
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