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Anonymous · Guest

If you have been ripped off by Ronald Rustafer, Jordan Taylor OR anyone using these email addresses unchained5150@hotmail.com,vanhalen98@hotmail.com, bigbubba5150@hotmail.com OR anyone using this physical mail address: XXX Bermuda Avenue Oshawa, Ontario, Canada L1J 6A8 OR the following web address <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ga/bigbubba/main.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire.com/ga/bigbubba/main.html</A> PLEASE email me privately with trade specifics. I've got a list of his victims going and it looks like Jordan will be brought to justice VERY, VERY, soon!

FullBugAZ

I took the liberty of editing the numbers on the address. We don't condone posting addresses. Just email, name and city. I'll also be moving this to the appropriate forum. The "Traders to avoid" forum. Thanks

HalenUpNorth

I had a bad feeling about bigbubba. He hit me up a couple of weeks ago for a trade, and call me crazy, but I had a real bad feeling. He lives relatively close to me, (his package should have arrived within 5 days). I've yet to hear back from him, but he will not receive my tape until I get his first. I guess I'm lucky the post office returned my tape to me for insufficient postage !! Too bad, I hate it when people get burned on trades.

Chris UK

I have very recently entered into a 4 tape video trade with this guy. Unfortunately, the last of the two packages went off in the post yesterday( the other about a week ago)!! I have yet to receive anything from him, but I wouldn`t expect to, especially considering the current world situation etc. However, 2 or 3 weeks should prove things one way or another. I would like to give this guy the opportunity to prove he is a decent trader, so please if you are reading this Ron/Jordan.... do the right thing and give everyone what you owe them trade wise ASAP. I have great regard for the Canadians I have traded with so far, so don`t let your country down egh!

Scott Roberts

For the time being I've suspended bigbubba's posting rights.

Anonymous · Guest

This appearantly is not the first time "Rock Phantom" has had a problem with this guy. Check out this thread on VHForums from Nov. 2000:<A HREF="http://www.vhforums.com/cgi-bin/vhlforum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000579" TARGET=_blank>http://www.vhforums.com/cgi-bin/vhlforum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000579</A>Methinks something's up. :roll:

HalenUpNorth

Although I'm sorry RockPhantom got ripped off in his trade, I think he goes a little too far in suggesting nobody trade with Canadians. I've traded with a great bunch of people through VHTrading, and I go to great lengths to make sure people are happy with their end of a trade. I'm not making a huge deal out of this, and yes, the guy is a jerk for ripping someone off trade-wise, but we Canadians are generally fair traders, as are the American, English, Brazilian, (just to name a few), traders I've dealt with. Peace !!!

blu · Guest Joined: 2001-05-02 Posts: 1436

I've got your back on that one HalenUpNorth; you get major props from me!!! Not all Canadieans are bad. I'm sure there are far more bad traders that are from the US and I don't see blanket accusations against us; so let's all keep level heads. One dick shouldn't ruin it for everybody. Maybe we could find a way to set up a list of people who have traded with others for public view. A page that lists the members and then out to the side (maybe a table) it lists who they have traded with. I keep a list of people on my personal page, so something like that. Dunno, maybe an idea. That way we have some sort of credentials, so to speak. Just a thought!!!!

Anonymous · Guest

I've traded with people worldwide, and the only few times I've gotten burned was by Americans. :p Everyone else has been totally cool.I think it's wrong that RockPhantom would generalize all Canadians as being bad traders. But I have talked to a few other people about BigBubba, and RockPhantom's claims seem more valid now. I'd still like to see what Ronald/Jordan/Bubba has to say about this matter.

Anonymous · Guest

I didn't mean to slam Canadians! I simply meant to be weary of people in Canada using free email addresses. It could be Jordan striking again! I've conducted a few trades in Canada since Jordan robbed me and they have all gone smoothly. I apologize to all honest Canadians!!! BTW, would anyone that lives near this clown be willing to pay him a visit?

bcgvh · Guest Joined: 2001-08-02 Posts: 17

I've never traded with this guy, and I can honestly thank this site for it (thanks you guys :)). It's been a long time now, but awhile back I was looking through the 'bad traders' section and saw his name listed there. A day later I received an e-mail from him saying he wanted to trade. If I wouldn't have read his name over here I would've probably become another one of his victims. But, I instead I told him "NO WAY". By the way, apparently he has MANY e-mail addresses because the one I received from him was under the name 'Edward Van Halen'. I've heard stories of him ripping traders off left and right ever since then, and he's currently being discussed over at the vhtrade mailing list. This guy probably rips people off and then turns around and sells copies on Ebay, which is just plain sorry. Spread the word, don't trade with this guy. If he wants/needs money that bad, he can go get a job. Sorry to here of all the people getting ripped off, it's a bad deal.

HalenUpNorth

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by blu: I've got your back on that one HalenUpNorth; you get major props from me!!! Not all Canadieans are bad. I'm sure there are far more bad traders that are from the US and I don't see blanket accusations against us; so let's all keep level heads. One dick shouldn't ruin it for everybody. Maybe we could find a way to set up a list of people who have traded with others for public view. A page that lists the members and then out to the side (maybe a table) it lists who they have traded with. I keep a list of people on my personal page, so something like that. Dunno, maybe an idea. That way we have some sort of credentials, so to speak. Just a thought!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That, my good man, is a damn good idea. ;)

Big Bad Bill

Yes, Blu, excellent idea. Scott, could you cook up something like this?

Jerel

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by blu: I've got your back on that one HalenUpNorth; you get major props from me!!! Not all Canadieans are bad. I'm sure there are far more bad traders that are from the US and I don't see blanket accusations against us; so let's all keep level heads. One dick shouldn't ruin it for everybody. Maybe we could find a way to set up a list of people who have traded with others for public view. A page that lists the members and then out to the side (maybe a table) it lists who they have traded with. I keep a list of people on my personal page, so something like that. Dunno, maybe an idea. That way we have some sort of credentials, so to speak. Just a thought!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>True, I like it.. But could be an easy way for the "people watching" to trace us. If in fact someone breaks the law..etc. Then the people connected could get hurt. Just a thought.

Scott Roberts

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jerel: True, I like it.. But could be an easy way for the "people watching" to trace us. If in fact someone breaks the law..etc. Then the people connected could get hurt. Just a thought.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good point, Jerel.

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