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[Anonymous]

I hate to do this...but almost 2 months on a trade is excessive especially since you don't return my e-mails.

Paul Keenan
aka Paul Rox
aka Steve ???
all from the uzisuicide2002 site on geocities

Andrea

[VanJay2]

I would like to reinforce this post.

I mailed them some discs in February and have heard nothing but excuses. :roll:

Steve on several occasions claims the discs will arrive and Paul is a little harded to get ahold of but claims the same.

I will revoke this when the discs arrive.

[VanJay2]

Here is the complete email if anyone cares to read it:

-------------------------------------

Hey its steve. I seen paul tonight he told me he is resending the cds this
week so you'll have them by the weekend or sooner.

~Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Jursa" <vanjursa@hotmail.com>
To: <mr_stp@yahoo.com>
Cc: <stevenv1982@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: RE: Mansfield recordings

> Paul,
>
> Can you give me a guarenteed date I can receive these by?
>
> As of the mail today, I have still not received them.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris
>
> >From: Paul Keenan <mr_stp@yahoo.com>
> >To: Vanjursa <Vanjursa@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: RE: RE: Mansfield recordings
> >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:11:30 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I did send the discs last Thursday. I take it they
> >were never recieved. I will burn more and send it to
> >you Monday. Please send me your address again as the
> >PO may have misread the address, I worte the adress
> >wrong somehow, or it just got lost in the shuffle
> >(what else is new- the story of my life).
> >Sorry about all of this.
> >
> >-Paul
> >
> >--- Vanjursa <Vanjursa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > You can check out my list at:
> > > http://www.sis.pitt.edu/~cjursa/personal/cds.txt
> > >
> > > I have a few items not listed and have about 20
> > > discs coming in (not
> > > counting the discs Paul owes me).
> > >
> > > However, I will need to wait until Paul sends the
> > > discs before I can
> > > commit to any more trading. Can you give me an
> > > estimate of when I
> > > should receive my discs? I know I need to resend a
> > > few to Paul due to
> > > defects, but I want to assure I will receive my end
> > > of the trade first.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: stevenv1982 [mailto:stevenv1982@cox.net]
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:02 AM
> > > > To: Chris Jursa
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: Mansfield recordings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I know paul is going to send them to you i let him
> > > use the
> > > > cdrs of mine that you wanted. So i would think he
> > > will be
> > > > sending very soon. I'm sorry about this paul can
> > > be slow
> > > > sometimes i'll get on his back about this.
> > > >
> > > > P.S. i'm a big Van Halen fan my self can you send
> > > me a list
> > > > of audio/video that you have? Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > ~Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chris Jursa" <vanjursa@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <stevenv1982@cox.net>
> > > > Cc: <mr_stp@yahoo.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Fwd: RE: Mansfield recordings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > A few weeks ago, I emailed and traded with Paul
> > > Rox. I see
> > > > that Paul
> > > > > is a partner of yours on the trade site located
> > > at:
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/uzisuicide2002/
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I have yet to receive my discs. I was
> > > wondering
> > > > how I could
> > > > obtain
> > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand Paul has fallen on some really
> > > tough times.
> > > > However, I
> > > > > still need these discs. I have friends that are
> > > waiting on
> > > > them. Is
> > > > > there anything you can do?
> > > > >
> > > > > You can view my email conversation with him
> > > below:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Christopher Jursa
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Paul Keenan <mr_stp@yahoo.com>
> > > > > >To: Vanjursa <Vanjursa@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Mansfield recordings
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:01:21 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sorry if I haven't gotten back to you in a LONG
> > > time,
> > > > > >the past 2 weeks have been hell. One of my
> > > close
> > > > > >friends died in The Station fire, and it's been
> > > > > >tearing me up ever since. I haven't bothered to
> > > check
> > > > > >my email since that dreadful day. Last week, I
> > > came
> > > > > >down with a terrible case of the flu. Sorry if
> > > I've
> > > > > >seemed to come off as an asshole.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- Vanjursa <Vanjursa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have you been getting any of my messages?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Paul Keenan
> > > [mailto:mr_stp@yahoo.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Vanjursa
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Mansfield recordings
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just got the discs in over the weekend.
> > > MSG 1984
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the 2nd disc of "Live without a Net"
> > > doesn't work.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > don't know if the discs are defective or
> > > the discs weren't
> > > > > > > > finalized. Other than that, I'll try to
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > your stuff out by the end of the week.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Paul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PS. Thanx for your concern on the Great
> > > White
> > > > > > > concert,
> > > > > > > > my friend and I were supposed to go to
> > > that show,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > we ended up not going.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- Vanjursa <Vanjursa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Have you received your discs yet?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, when should I expect mine?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Paul Keenan
> > > [mailto:mr_stp@yahoo.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003
> > > 10:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Chris Jursa
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Mansfield recordings
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry 'bout the delay. We've had a
> > > major
> > > > > > > blizzard
> > > > > > > > > > where I live and we just dug out of
> > > it. I've
> > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Castillo benefit on CD - but only the
> > > last 3
> > > > > > > songs
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > it (no one else seems to have the
> > > whole show)
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > Lit
> > > > > > > > > > Up, Paradise City, and Mama Kin (with
> > > Steve
> > > > > > > > > Tyler).
> > > > > > > > > > I'd suggest that you should pick
> > > another CD,
> > > > > > > > > unless
> > > > > > > > > > you really want it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Paul
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- Chris Jursa <vanjursa@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! I'll have your discs out
> > > tommorrow.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > don't want any of those
> > > > > > > > > > > quick clicks between tracks that mp3
> > > are
> > >
> >=== message truncated ===
> >
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[Anonymous]

Hey all you guys are trading with paul not me. Paul aka Paul Rox runs the Metallica parts of my site at geocities.com/uzisuicide2002 and helps me out with alot of my site since i deal with alot of Guns N'Roses people. I have just started to get back in to Van Halen now that the whole gn'r 2002 tour has ended and all the boots are in and other bands as you can see on my site. I do not fuck people over. Its just there is alot going on and its hard to find time sometimes to get things done as some of you must know. Thats why me and paul work togther. Paul did send out the discs you and him trade for but you never got them. Paul will be mailing them out to you today. You will get your discs. I'm very sorry about this and i am a very good trader.

[Anonymous]

Let me take all the heat for this. Don't blame Steve for a damn thing. It's ME that you've been trading with, NOT HIM!!! I don't check my emails often, but do get my business done eventually. The only thing me and Steve have in common trading wise is that we run the same website. Two different addresses for two different people whom you're dealing with. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF PEOPLE FROM HERE EVER TRADE WITH ME AGAIN, it was a good hobby while it lasted for me, but DON'T GET OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW I (AND ONLY I) CONDUCT BUSINESS.
I AM THE ONE THAT HAS NOT GOTTEN THINGS DONE RIGHT AND THAT IS MY FAULT AND NO ONE ELSE'S. As for the people that have no recieved my stuff yet - to certain people my stuff has already been sent and supposedly has not been recieved. For other traders, you're stuff is on the way this week.
I can give you a ton of excuses why things have gone awry - from college classes and exams that are crushing me and other personal problems, money troubles, etc. but no one will want to hear that. There's a time and a place for life and the same thing can be applied to business. As it has been for the past few weeks, there has been no time nor place for business.
GO TO THE SOURCE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS BEFORE YOU GO POINTING FINGERS AT OTHERS, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. IF THERE'S ANYONE TO BLAME HERE, IT SHOULD BE ME AND ABSOLUTELY NO ONE ELSE.

[VanJay2]

Guys,

I hated to do this because you both seem like cool people to me. However, I have yet to receive my discs and its been two months. I too am working a full time job, taking graduate courses, have two uncles recently in the hospital, etc. Life happens, but I still managed to keep my word. All I want is my discs. That is the only thing that will solve this.

The problem is I've been recently screwed on another trade by a webmaster of a Metallica site. I got the same replies from him I got from both of you, which are the "they'll be sent this week", "I promise", "you'll get them don't worry", etc.

I'll make sure your name is cleared if I get my discs. Until then . . .

[Anonymous]

Stop making excuses and make good on the trade.
How long does it take to burn a few cds ?

VanJay, I have been screwed on some trades (Not with these guys though) and it just plain sucks.

I feel your pain...

[romeod]

I agree with Punk....If you have the time to make excuses on why you don't have time to complete a trade, then you should not be trading. Take some time off and don't accept any new trades until you have the time.

[BillBee]

Hi Guys,

Traded with Paul back in Feb 03 - a couple of Providence shows (my end) for a couple of videos (his end). Two months later - I was going to write it off and had forgotten about it until Paul reminded me this week.

If Paul makes good - sweet - people handle life's problems differently. But I would have him mail his end first from now on.

But as the man said "Sh!t or get off the pot" :thumb:

-B!ll

[Anonymous]

I traded with Paul earlier this year, and he stopped replying to some e-mails as he said he rearly checked his mail.

He got his end, bout 2 months later, I recieved my end. So he did make good on my trade, if a little late.

[Vince G.]

You know, as a general rule before my burner went on the fritz I *never* mailed out discs when trading with someone I'm not familiar with.

I usually waited until I received the merchandise before sending anything out.

[Anonymous]

Quote: Originally posted by Vince G.:
You know, as a general rule before my burner went on the fritz I *never* mailed out discs when trading with someone I'm not familiar with.

I usually waited until I received the merchandise before sending anything out. You know...this works, unless both traders don't know each other. Then no one ever sends anything. I usually abide by that rule...but on this board I have had such good luck I overlooked it.

Andrea

[BillBee]

Re: Paul Rox

Just an update to keep this active :)

Still no Videos since the promise to send two weeks ago.

Anyone else have any luck?

I'll keep posting updates ;)

-B!ll

[Anonymous]

Nothing here yet

Andrea

[Anonymous]

An update on my trade with Paul...

I received Paul's end of the trade yesterday.

Andrea