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VanJay2



Joined: 2001-09-15
Posts: 635
Location: Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:39 pm    Post subject: recording a show tips anyone?  

Hi,

Reb Beach (former lead guitarist for Winger and Dokken and current Whitesnake guitarist) is playing some dates in Pittsburgh with his local band. He'll be doing some songs from Winger, Dokken and Whitesnake as well.

Check out
http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=52579&messageid=1070834186&lp=1070932480

I have a cheap pocket cassette recorder I used in college courses. Can I use this to record a show. I got Reb's personal approval from the thread above. I just want to know if I can get recording with this. I know it may not sound to good but its all I got.

Can anyone give me any tips with the device I have? Someone told me placing a piece of scotch tape on the mic would reduce some noise. Anyone ever heard about this? :confused:
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VanJay2



Joined: 2001-09-15
Posts: 635
Location: Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

I am thinking about purchasing a minidisc player.

Is there any one I should look at? What qualities should I look for?

I am looking to spend around $100. I'm a bootleger on a budget.
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Modern Day Warrior



Joined: 2003-05-08
Posts: 89
Location: Rahway,NJ USA

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Does your recorder have a mic input jack?You could do a little trick that I learned and that's but using a pair of headphones plugged into the mic jack and have the headphones around your neck while recording the show.I just did that this past sunday taping David Lee Roth because I couldn't get my digital mic and dat from my friend due to the snow storm we had in NJ.
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PanicBoy



Joined: 2003-07-08
Posts: 239
Location: Gateway to Europe

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Try to use a minidisc recorder with a mic input and a line-input.

Try to use the line-input and let it plug into the soundboard.

Be aware that a minidisc doesn't get shocks during recording, or you will get "shocks" in your recording (= missing parts because of repositioning the recording head).

If you want to do a mic recording (audience recording) then the quality of the mic is more important than the minidisc.

Maybe someone else can put some tips on where to stand (front, back, near speaker cabinets, or not near speaker cabinets......).......
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VanJay2



Joined: 2001-09-15
Posts: 635
Location: Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Quote: Originally posted by Modern Day Warrior:
Does your recorder have a mic input jack?You could do a little trick that I learned and that's but using a pair of headphones plugged into the mic jack and have the headphones around your neck while recording the show.I just did that this past sunday taping David Lee Roth because I couldn't get my digital mic and dat from my friend due to the snow storm we had in NJ. How did it come out?
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Modern Day Warrior



Joined: 2003-05-08
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Location: Rahway,NJ USA

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Quote: Originally posted by VanJay2:
Quote: Originally posted by Modern Day Warrior:
[b]Does your recorder have a mic input jack?You could do a little trick that I learned and that's but using a pair of headphones plugged into the mic jack and have the headphones around your neck while recording the show.I just did that this past sunday taping David Lee Roth because I couldn't get my digital mic and dat from my friend due to the snow storm we had in NJ. How did it come out?[/b] See here-
http://www.vhtrading.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=13;t=000617
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Vince G.



Joined: 2001-08-03
Posts: 1587
Location: In front of my computer

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Quote: Originally posted by VanJay2:
Hi,Can anyone give me any tips with the device I have? Someone told me placing a piece of scotch tape on the mic would reduce some noise. Anyone ever heard about this? :confused: Yes.

1. Buy an MD player/recorder.
2. Buy a good clip-on mic, black in color.
3. Wear black clothing to camouflage the mic and its wire.
4. Take backup batteries and blank MD's with you.
5. Don't get caught.
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VanJay2



Joined: 2001-09-15
Posts: 635
Location: Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Quote: Originally posted by Vince G.:
Quote: Originally posted by VanJay2:
[b]Hi,Can anyone give me any tips with the device I have? Someone told me placing a piece of scotch tape on the mic would reduce some noise. Anyone ever heard about this? :confused: Yes.

1. Buy an MD player/recorder.
2. Buy a good clip-on mic, black in color.
3. Wear black clothing to camouflage the mic and its wire.
4. Take backup batteries and blank MD's with you.
5. Don't get caught.[/b] Thanks Vince.

Also, is it good to stand near the speakers or away from them. What proximity is best to capture the sound?
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guitard



Joined: 2001-12-01
Posts: 3412
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Quote: Originally posted by VanJay2:

Also, is it good to stand near the speakers or away from them. What proximity is best to capture the sound? For the record - I've never recorded an audio show - only filmed.

From what I've always heard - you want to stand near the soundboard (probably right in front of it). The sound man is working to get the best sound he can and obviously, he goes by what he's hearing there at the soundboard.

I just bought some Core Sound Low Cost Binaural microphones (http://www.core-sound.com). By all accounts, they are really great for recording shows, and the price is good ($75).

As a previous poster said, the quality of the mics will make a bigger difference than the quality of the recorder.

Randy
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Anonymous
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

I use a Sony MD & a Sony stereo mic (black like Vince said) Try & get a mic with a cord, some mics are direct plug with no cord which can sometimes pick up noise from the MD itself while recording. Also keep an eye on your recording levels. Too high will pick up everything around you & result in the croud noise overpowering the music. I record around the half way mark on my MD (mine is a manual adjust, others are like a high or low)
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VanJay2
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Joined: 2001-09-15
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Location: Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

Thanks guys.

Could someone post a link (to Best Buy, Circuit City, etc) of a device and microphone they could recommend?

I'm recording a couple of shows from Reb Beach (of Winger). He plays in my local area and I got his permission to record them. :sssh:
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TUNESMITH
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Joined: 2002-06-08
Posts: 1120
Location: hawaii

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: recording a show tips anyone?  

try this place, it has what you want. also fully willing to answer your questions, just call!
http://www.microphonemadness.com/
you can get the whole set up from them one time and be set up for years.
great stuff
nough said
:cool:
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