David Lee Roth 1986-09-26 Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI (Crazy in Detroit – 2014 Edition) Bluray
David Lee Roth
Crazy in Detroit (2014 Edition)

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=493749

Media: 1 Blu-Ray
Time: 1h 45m 55s
Audio: Audience (1st Gen)
Date: September 26, 1986
Location: Cobo Hall, Detroit, Michigan

The Band
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David Lee Roth – Vocals
Steve Vai – Guitars
Billy Sheehan – Bass
Gregg Bissonette – Drums

Track Listing
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Intro
Shy Boy
Tobacco Road
Unchained
Panama
Drum Solo
Pretty Woman
Elephant Gun
Ladies Night in Buffalo
Everybody Wants Some!!
On Fire
Bump and Grind
Ice Cream Man
Big Trouble
Yankee Rose
Bass / Guitar Solos
Ain’t Talkin’ ’bout Love
Going Crazy
Jump
California Girls

I will post this to other sites when it is finished being seeded out to everyone on DIME. Please allow the show to finish and me to post it elsewhere. Thanks.

Comments and Reviews:
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Special thanks to Danny During for providing the 1st gen cassette tapes to source for this production and to the CBG for the photos used in the artwork. This recording is also available as a CD Audio and a 24bit/96khz DVD-Audio release. Do not buy, sell or distribute for profit. Help keep alive the spirit of free trade. Please do not convert to mp3 or wma format for trading. It defeats the purpose of using high quality sources.

Production Notes:
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The 1st gen tapes for the alternate audio were transfered on a modified Sony 701ES cassette deck unidirectionally and recorded at 24bit / 96khz resolution via a Terratec 6Fire audio processor. All remastering was done at the 32bit level for additional clarity before the final mixdown to 16bit / 44.1 khz for the CD Audio and 24bit / 96khz for the DVD-Audio. No hiss or noise reduction was used in the audio mastering process.

The video was sourced from the Damage Inc. Master Series DVD release. This has been acknowledged as a major visual improvement over the 1st gen video used for the original “Crazy in Detroit” release, but with inferior audio. I aligned the audience recording with the video soundtrack, which was a time consuming process when aligning two analog recordings, neither of which ran at perfect speed. I adjusted the speed of the audience recording to match the video soundtrack as closely as possible, making well over 200 adjustment points! While not perfect, the synchronization is pretty darn close.

All I did was demux the video track and then remux the new audio tracks to the original video. The video itself is unchanged and untouched, it’s still the original file as on the Damage Inc. DVD release. Now there are three sound tracks. The first is the 24 bit / 96khz audience recording, the second is the video soundtrack remixed, and the third is the original video soundtrack untouched.

One of the features not available when “Crazy in Detroit” was the Blu-Ray format which allows for higher bit rates and capacity. So this time around the show is continuous, no dvd disc break. Also, full badwidth high resolution audio tracks could be included. The draw back is the increased file size (17gb vs. 4.3gb + 3.7gb).

Another benefit of the Blu-Ray format is that I can also include the 24/96 audience recording along with the 16/44.1 cd version that was part of the original “Crazy in Detroit” release.

This was just a simple project to update an old release from 9+ years ago for some friends. No disrespect was intended to Damage Inc. and their release.

CBG5150 Notes:
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When I noticed, and I don’t know how I missed this upload, that Rockphantom uploaded this show on 2011-09-24, I took Rockphantom’s comments to heart. They were:

“The video quality of this release is superior to the 2005 “Crazy In Detroit” 2DVD release from Digital Reproductions.
However, the Crazy In Detroit release features an alternate soundtrack which sounds much better than the original VHS audio.
Both versions of this amazing David Lee Roth/Steve Vai show have their positives and negatives.”

So I contacted DigitalDan of Digital Reproductions and asked him if he could combine both the better video and audio sources. With much appreciation, it now exists in that fashion. The reason other than the obvious, this show was the show that made me say, I need to do this. I recieved the original source back in 1986 from Pierre in Montreal. He traded with Otto, who I didn’t know at the time, to get the show. I ended up buying it for $30 on VHS. Pierre blew me away by seeing his list and then collecting all the great shows that he did from 1982-1986 but Otto’s “balls” to go film on the 1st level of an arena on the side close to the band as opposed to being streight on in the back of the 2nd level, really put me over the edge to try it that way. Otto exhibited alot of great qualities in his filming capability, standing and filming close on the side, being steady throughout (having a shoulder mount camera helps), he was rock steady, his ability to zoom in, zoom back then pan, then rezoom is smooth and smart. He knew what and who to film when the show required it. And his zooming was smooth. Just great filming technique. But what I liked most was as I said “his balls” to go for it and film on the side close to the show.

This show was one of those BIG city shows too, where David turns it up a notch. Like in NYC (MSG & Nassau) or New Jersey (Meadowlands) or Boston or Philly. I went to all of those BIG city shows in 1986 and wished I filmed then because David was On Fire in those shows. So was the band. The loudest autience I ever heard was Worcester Mass in 1986 at the DL Roth show. The back of my neck was tingling from that audience.

So, thanks to DigitalDan for merging the two best sources of this show together for all of our viewing and listening pleasure. And thanks to Rockphantom for posting the improved video of the show. Thanks to David Lee Roth for putting on one hell of a show in Detroit Rock “Big” City!! Lastly, thanks to Otto for inspiring me to try to do what you did so well. Enjoy the show and turn it up loud! CBG5150 Posted to Dime 2014-05-30.

David Lee Roth 1986-09-26 Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI (Crazy in Detroit – 2014 Edition) 2xDVD5
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=493746

David Lee Roth
Crazy in Detroit (2014 Edition)

Media: 2xDVD5
Time: 1h 45m 55s
Audio: Audience (1st Gen)
Date: September 26, 1986
Location: Cobo Hall, Detroit, Michigan

The Band
——–

David Lee Roth – Vocals
Steve Vai – Guitars
Billy Sheehan – Bass
Gregg Bissonette – Drums

Track Listing
————-

Disc 1
Intro 0:26
Shy Boy 2:58
Tobacco Road 2:40
Unchained 6:33
Panama 6:39
Drum Solo 2:49
Pretty Woman 2:49
Elephant Gun 2:29
Ladies Night in Buffalo 7:41
Everybody Wants Some!! 5:57
On Fire 4:19
Bump and Grind 4:06
Ice Cream Man 7:24
Big Trouble 4:00

Disc 2
Yankee Rose 4:05
Bass / Guitar Solos 12:59
Ain’t Talkin’ ’bout Love 9:08
Going Crazy 4:56
Jump 7:50
California Girls 5:55

I will post this to other sites when it is finished being seeded out to everyone on DIME. Please allow the show to finish and me to post it elsewhere. Thanks.

Comments and Reviews:
———————

Special thanks to Danny During for providing the 1st gen cassette tapes to source for this production and to the CBG for the photos used in the artwork. This recording is also available as a CD Audio and a 24bit/96khz DVD-Audio release. Do not buy, sell or distribute for profit. Help keep alive the spirit of free trade. Please do not convert to mp3 or wma format for trading. It defeats the purpose of using high quality sources.

Production Notes:
—————–

The 1st gen tapes for the alternate audio were transfered on a modified Sony 701ES cassette deck unidirectionally and recorded at 24bit / 96khz resolution via a Terratec 6Fire audio processor. All remastering was done at the 32bit level for additional clarity before the final mixdown to 16bit / 48khz for the DVD soundtrack. No hiss or noise reduction was used in the audio mastering process.

The video was sourced from the Damage Inc. Master Series DVD release. This has been acknowledged as a major visual improvement over the 1st gen video used for the original “Crazy in Detroit” release, but with inferior audio. I aligned the audience recording with the video soundtrack, which was a time consuming process when aligning two analog recordings, neither of which ran at perfect speed. I adjusted the speed of the audience recording to match the video soundtrack as closely as possible, making well over 200 adjustment points! While not perfect, the synchronization is pretty darn close.

All I did was demux the video track and then remux the new audio track to the original video. The video itself is unchanged and untouched, it’s still the original file as on the Damage Inc. DVD release. The new soundtrack is the 24 bit / 96khz audience recording downsampled to 16 bit / 48khz and compressed as a 448kbps Dolby Digital. On the DVD’s are the artworks from the original “Crazy in Detroit” release and the CD audio tracks in FLAC format.

This was just a simple project to update an old release from 9+ years ago for some friends. No disrespect was intended to Damage Inc. and their release.

CBG5150 Notes:
——————

When I noticed, and I don’t know how I missed this upload, that Rockphantom uploaded this show on 2011-09-24, I took Rockphantom’s comments to heart. They were:

“The video quality of this release is superior to the 2005 “Crazy In Detroit” 2DVD release from Digital Reproductions.
However, the Crazy In Detroit release features an alternate soundtrack which sounds much better than the original VHS audio.
Both versions of this amazing David Lee Roth/Steve Vai show have their positives and negatives.”

So I contacted DigitalDan of Digital Reproductions and asked him if he could combine both the better video and audio sources. With much appreciation, it now exists in that fashion. The reason other than the obvious, this show was the show that made me say, I need to do this. I recieved the original source back in 1986 from Pierre in Montreal. He traded with Otto, who I didn’t know at the time, to get the show. I ended up buying it for $30 on VHS. Pierre blew me away by seeing his list and then collecting all the great shows that he did from 1982-1986 but Otto’s “balls” to go film on the 1st level of an arena on the side close to the band as opposed to being streight on in the back of the 2nd level, really put me over the edge to try it that way. Otto exhibited alot of great qualities in his filming capability, standing and filming close on the side, being steady throughout (having a shoulder mount camera helps), he was rock steady, his ability to zoom in, zoom back then pan, then rezoom is smooth and smart. He knew what and who to film when the show required it. And his zooming was smooth. Just great filming technique. But what I liked most was as I said “his balls” to go for it and film on the side close to the show.

This show was one of those BIG city shows too, where David turns it up a notch. Like in NYC (MSG & Nassau) or New Jersey (Meadowlands) or Boston or Philly. I went to all of those BIG city shows in 1986 and wished I filmed then because David was On Fire in those shows. So was the band. The loudest autience I ever heard was Worcester Mass in 1986 at the DL Roth show. The back of my neck was tingling from that audience.

So, thanks to DigitalDan for merging the two best sources of this show together for all of our viewing and listening pleasure. And thanks to Rockphantom for posting the improved video of the show. Thanks to David Lee Roth for putting on one hell of a show in Detroit Rock “Big” City!! Lastly, thanks to Otto for inspiring me to try to do what you did so well. Enjoy the show and turn it up loud! CBG5150 Posted to Dime 2014-05-30.

Blu-ray and 24-bit 96khz audio from VHS/cassette sources…that’s not overkill at all!

Two DVD5s = 8.74GBs of data (4.37GBs each), while a DVD9 only holds 7.95GBs. So if the intent was to do this without re-encoding the video, and if the video pretty much maxed out the original DVD5s, this would not fit on a DVD9. So if you wanted to put this on a single disk, I guess the only other option would be a blu-ray disk.

According to DIME, the two DVD5s add up to 7.64GB…. so that should fit on a DVD9…. ?

JasonA: Blu-ray and 24-bit 96khz audio from VHS/cassette sources…that’s not overkill at all!

TORRENT BANNED FROM DIME!

This torrent mixes audio files with Blu Ray files. Actually, it’s worse than that. There are multiple audio filesets here.
On dime, each source should be shared as a separate torrent:

1. Blu Ray video (actually the video here is DVD video with higher resolution audio)
2. 24/96 audio torrent
3. Redbook / CD audio torrent

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[Comment from Ron] As long as the seeder, and anyone else that wants the BluRay version stays attached to the torrent, you’ll still get the download. Ratio should be unaffected after the ban happened.

I’ll gladly supply my MASTER audio if they want to do a 2015 upgrade version.

Yes, Pat, I got my 1st gen from you back in late 86 or early 87. Nine or ten years ago I sent the tapes to Digital Dan for his project. I don’t think I was aware of your your online presence at that time.

dand363: Yes, Pat, I got my 1st gen from you back in late 86 or early 87. Nine or ten years ago I sent the tapes to Digital Dan for his project. I don’t think I was aware of your your online presence at that time.

That was pre-VHT.

I know the uploader at Dime and told him to give Pat the audio credit.

guitard: I know the uploader at Dime and told him to give Pat the audio credit.

No big deal. Otherwise “Recorded by mr_mojo_halen” is fine.

Looks like after the BAN from DIME, this was split into several different torrents.

David Lee Roth 1986-09-26 Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI (2xDVD5 with 16/48 audio soundtrack)
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=493906

David Lee Roth 1986-09-26 Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI (DVD Video with 24/96 audio soundtrack)
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=493888

David Lee Roth 1986-09-26 Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI (24/96)
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=493845

David Lee Roth 1986-09-26 Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI (16/44)
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=493832

Why is it such a sin to author a DVD with multiple audio tracks again? As long as it’s within the DVD spec, I don’t see why it was such a problem for the original torrent.

nice! I saw this show in 86, but don’t think I’ve watched much on Youtube from this tour. Great quality and filming on this one!

For some reason I am not able to download any torrents at DIME? It’s at 0% and has said “finding peers” since yesterday afternoon. ?? Any idea why this is happening? I’ve never had any problems before.