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id='q-22067'><p><a
href="http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-uneven-alchemy-of-van-halens-runnin-with-the-d,90900/" rel="nofollow">http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-uneven-alchemy-of-van-halens-runnin-with-the-d,90900/</a></p><p>The uneven alchemy of Van Halen&#8217;s &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil&#8221;<br
/> by Jason Heller January 15, 2013</p><p>The album may or may not be obsolete, but the fact remains: Listeners have long obsessed over individual songs. The Single File is The A.V. Club&#8217;s look at the deep cuts, detours, experiments, and anthems that make us reach for replay.</p><p>Whoever said a chain is only as strong as its weakest link never listened to Van Halen. From a strictly technical standpoint, David Lee Roth is one of the shittiest singers to ever clutch a microphone: screeching, squawking, croaking, honking, and bordering on tone-deafness. Granted, rock doesn&#8217;t demand virtuosity. But Roth&#8217;s lack of chops is made even more glaring by a stark contrast: His crumpled saxophone of a voice is pitted against the sleek eloquence and elegance of Eddie Van Halen&#8217;s guitar. It shouldn&#8217;t have worked. It totally did. And that uneven alchemy was already established by the 1978 release of VH&#8217;s debut, Van Halen&#8211;as well as the album&#8217;s first original hit song, &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil.&#8221;</p><p><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl4dEAtxo0M" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl4dEAtxo0M</a></p><p>VH&#8217;s opening shot in its bid for world domination was a cover song. A faithful rendition of The Kinks&#8217; &#8220;You Really Got Me&#8221; came out as a single just prior to &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil.&#8221; It was a smart move. Simple, sturdy, and universally familiar, the melody of &#8220;You Really Got Me&#8221; challenged neither Roth nor his potential audience. &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil&#8221; is a different matter. If radio listeners were led to believe that all of Van Halen might be a cheery, cheeky &#8217;60s throwback, their ears were soon disabused of that notion. And abused by Roth.</p><p>That&#8217;s not to say &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil&#8221; is in any way abrasive. That said, it&#8217;s no &#8220;You Really Got Me.&#8221; Leering, menacing, and lasciviously playful, the throb of the opening bassline telegraphs hellish darkness to come. Instead, it&#8217;s Roth. As Van Halen&#8217;s sinuous riffage unfurls, his prancing, preening counterpart beings to wail. And whoop. And whine. And perhaps woof. Caught in mid-barf, Roth pushes his bestial bark to something unrecognizably tuneless.</p><p>The ultimate expression of Roth&#8217;s narcissistic caterwauling was put on display a few years ago, when a track of his vocals for &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil&#8221;&#8211;sans Van Halen&#8217;s fluid, melodic guitar&#8211;was posted on the Internet. Such examples of disembodied vocals, particularly of well-known songs, can be jarring upon first listen. But there&#8217;s something spectacularly lousy about Roth&#8217;s unaccompanied vocals for &#8220;Runnin&#8217;.&#8221; Without the song&#8217;s title being chanted hypnotically in the background, there&#8217;s no harmonic tether, nothing to hold onto. Just Roth in all his naked glory. It&#8217;s like seeing Superman with his tights around his ankles, the emperor strutting around with no clothes. And a hard-on. Instead of coming across like the world-class singer of a world-class band, Roth is a drunken aerobics instructor who stumbles into a karaoke bar after a long night of moonlighting as a porn star.</p><p><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJNCazmNnI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNJNCazmNnI</a></p><p>Which, naturally, is why Roth is a genius. Without him, VH wouldn&#8217;t have that X-factor, that wild card, that musky bouquet of chaos. The bland, post-Roth incarnations of VH have proven this. Never in a million years would anyone expect Eddie Van Halen to fly off his fretboard and start foaming at the fingers. But Roth? That dude is batshit. There are lyrics to &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil,&#8221; but to Roth, they&#8217;re about as necessary as a melody. The gist of his words are focused on four basic facts:</p><p> He &#8220;live[s] his life like there&#8217;s no tomorrow.&#8221;<br
/> His fledgling career as a touring musician has already taught him that &#8220;the simple life ain&#8217;t so simple.&#8221;<br
/> He is now, in some undefined and perhaps indefinable way, &#8220;runnin&#8217; with the devil.&#8221;<br
/> He&#8217;s gonna tell ya all about it.</p><p>In other words, he&#8217;s pretty much an idiot. Or rather, he&#8217;s auditioning for the part of rock&#8217;s reigning idiot savant. Too impetuous to wait for a callback, he just went ahead and gave himself the role. You may genuflect now. But Roth is as much of a court jester as he is a benevolent tyrant, and therein lies the root of his chummy megalomania. Circa 1978, hard rock was still the province of demigods like Robert Plant. Punk was exploding&#8211;down the block in VH&#8217;s hometown of L.A., in fact&#8211;but it hadn&#8217;t touched the mainstream in any real way. That said, Roth cannily locked onto the idea that having some sort of everyman quality might lighten Van Halen&#8217;s rocket-science level of instrumental perfection.</p><p>In his book Rock And The Pop Narcotic, curmudgeonly critic Joe Carducci refers to Eddie Van Halen&#8217;s pathological expertise on the guitar as &#8220;technosis&#8221;&#8211;and the innovative tapping technique he helped popularize as &#8220;insensate fret math.&#8221; Roth and math, on the other hand, have never been mentioned in the same sentence. Split the difference, and there&#8217;s &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil&#8221;&#8211;an anthem that appeals to music geeks, dumbfucks, and just about everyone who can appreciate the unintentional image of a spandex-wearing Roth jogging alongside Satan. While Van Halen applies thermodynamics to his rhythm playing and astrophysics to his leads, Roth is a god gone goofy, the anti-Plant, a deity fallen to Earth and probably onto your couch.</p><p>That egalitarianism didn&#8217;t fool everyone, especially not the nascent population of Metalhead, U.S.A. As Carducci goes on to state:</p><p> &#8220;Van Halen debunked the idea that all metal was heavy and therefore doomed to glower from the lower end of the charts&#8230; In doing so they unleashed an avalanche of show-metal bands that on average weigh in somewhere between The Turtles and The 1910 Fruitgum Company.&#8221;</p><p>Today, it&#8217;s commonly accepted that VH is more of a hard-rock party band than a metal titan. In 1978, though, those lines had yet to be clearly drawn. That lack of a clear distinction set a precedent, one that Carducci correctly calls the root of &#8217;80s pop-metal, for better and worse. Before the release of Van Halen, American metal was an ominous and mostly underground phenomenon, the accumulated ill will of a generation of pimply, denim-clad miscreants; afterward, metal began to metastasize. Kiss had already begun that process, and it&#8217;s no coincidence that Gene Simmons produced VH&#8217;s first demo in 1976, a session that included a raw, streamlined, more urgent version of &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil.&#8221; While not radically different, that version is enough to paint a picture of a parallel universe: one in which metal never crossed over, VH never became popular, and Roth never had the chance to let his cockiness outgrow his talent.</p><p><a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL0UKoKQyf0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL0UKoKQyf0</a></p><p>That parallel universe must be a boring one. For all the missteps VH later took&#8211;even during Roth&#8217;s tenure at the helm&#8211;the volatile formula of the original lineup remained. By Roth&#8217;s final album with the group, the omni-successful 1984, Van Halen veered toward synthesizers and symphonic pomp; meanwhile, Roth got frothier. And Rothier. That&#8217;s not the kind of chemistry that any sane group of people can sustain, which is partly why VH&#8217;s reunion album, 2012&#8242;s A Different Kind Of Truth, was doomed to mediocrity. But it doesn&#8217;t matter. As long as &#8220;Runnin&#8217; With The Devil&#8221; remains, it&#8217;s easy to turn back the clock and imagine that the hard-partying, brightly burning, cruddy-voiced Roth truly had no tomorrow.</p><hr
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id="quote-reply-22067" style="display: none;">ron</span><a
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id='q-22068'><p>Good read, thanks for posting, Ron, even if I don&#8217;t necesarily agree with everything in the article (Roth an everyman? Not compared to Sammy).<br
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id='q-22070'><p>Instead of coming across like the world-class singer of a world-class band, Roth is a drunken aerobics instructor who stumbles into a karaoke bar after a long night of moonlighting as a porn star. <img
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id='q-22071'><p>Ha ha, I really enjoyed that.  I liked the line:  &#8220;Roth got frothier.  And Rothier.&#8221;  That about sums it up!<br
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id='q-22083'><p>Sorry, he states &#8220;Different Kind Of Truth, was doomed to mediocrity.&#8221; I cannot respect his opinion.<br
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id='q-22091'><p>Great read. One of the best and truthful in quite a while&#8230;almost thought Dennis Miller may have wrote it.  Thanks</p><p>MikeyV<br
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