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March 17, 2012 at 10:21 am Quote #8202

cobohall76
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Keep in mind when shooting the video that my buddy is also shooting. He shoots from the back of the arena, so when u are shooting,get a lot of everything.

Good Luck.


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March 17, 2012 at 10:44 am Quote #8203

kaloway
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Sorry about the 6 inch joke, I have my own insecurities to deal with…

As far as going in the arena, security is a joke. Since cameras are allowed, there is no checking at all.

Cabo – since your friend is filimg wide, i will work on up close shots. When we did Buffalo (still working dvd) we focused on eds hands for solos etc.


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March 17, 2012 at 12:35 pm Quote #8208

oryo
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Guys,
These are all great advice for us clueless members wanting to learn this stuff… I learned a shit load just from this thread.

I have attempted filming one show (Chickenfoot) and was stoked because I was about 10ft from center stage in the pit. The problem at the time was every time I tried to zoom in with digital camera the shot would get out of focus (rookie!) so I stuck with same camera shot the entire show. VanDiegoDave gave me some pointers since we have the same exact camera. One thing he warned me was my arms would be killing me and he was 1000% right.

I was stoked because I filmed the entire show and while walking back to the car I noticed the brand new memory card took a shit. I can see the first 4-5 songs I filmed but the rest of the entire concert had the files in the memory card but no video.. Lets just say I was just a tad upset!

Is security more relaxed now with cameras and video cameras because of the cell phones?? That was my worry was trying to get through security and getting caught and have to walk back to car to put shit away.

Again, Thanks for all the advice.

Maybe there should be a section in forum on filming and recording shows?????


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March 17, 2012 at 12:59 pm Quote #8209

fletch
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Ive shot video now at many many shows. Lots of local bands as well. Usually use a tri or mono pod- I have several. I’ve made a few home made mono pods that are small and easy to use. Randy hit it right though with the white bal/exposure….I usually go -0.7 to -1.0 to keep it dark. The lighting will really light up people’s faces and over expose your shot. You wont notice until you get home and will feel really pissed….ALSO…if you set it…once you turn the camera OFF- the camera resets itself to factory settings…when you turn it back on…reset it again. Cameras will not go back to the setting you used. Found that out the hard way at a chickenfoot show…lol. Its also about the position of your arms. They will get tired….even holding 1lb for 2 hours…trust me!!


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March 17, 2012 at 1:12 pm Quote #8210

guitard
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Decatone: Just focus in on Ed ALL night, tbh it’s the only style no one’s thought of yet…


Dammit ~ you ruined my surprise!! Seriously – that is exactly what I plan on doing in Chicago. I’m going to zoom in so that the only thing in the screen is Ed’s guitar. Occasionally, I’m going to zoom in even closer on his picking or fretting hand – but generally speaking, I think that shots with only one hand in them only give you half the picture, so to speak, so I only do that sparingly. My favorite shot is when a guitarist is playing high notes where both hands are close together and you can zoom in nice and close and get both hands in the shot.

Now I just have to hope I don’t have a 6’8″ guy right in front of me who wants to lean over and yell into his buddy’s ear every 30 seconds – which is what happened in Grand Rapids the last time I saw the mighty VH.


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March 17, 2012 at 1:18 pm Quote #8212

cobohall76
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Kaloway. GREAT IDEA!!!


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March 17, 2012 at 1:19 pm Quote #8214

ron
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Now I just have to hope I don’t have a 6’8″ guy right in front of me who wants to lean over and yell into his buddy’s ear every 30 seconds – which is what happened in Grand Rapids the last time I saw the mighty VH.

I’m only 6’4″, so you should be fine this time. :evil: :mrgreen:


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March 17, 2012 at 1:26 pm Quote #8218

mrmojohalen
(5430)

Chris UK:
Decatone: Just focus in on Ed ALL night, tbh it’s the only style no one’s thought of yet, there are hundreds of full band boots and no Ed on his own …and yet he remains the big attraction and the main pull to this band. In fact a lot of people who go to the show are probably guitar players anyway …so why not do an Ed vid fingers n’ all

Great idea Nick!

That would be interesting – all ED for the whole show.

Even during Al’s solo & ICM, look for ED lurking on the side of the stage. :mrgreen:


When you turn on your stereo, does it return the favor?


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March 17, 2012 at 2:05 pm Quote #8223

sickman
(2368)

fletch:
Ive shot video now at many many shows. Lots of local bands as well. Usually use a tri or mono pod- I have several. I’ve made a few home made mono pods that are small and easy to use. Randy hit it right though with the white bal/exposure….I usually go -0.7 to -1.0 to keep it dark. The lighting will really light up people’s faces and over expose your shot. You wont notice until you get home and will feel really pissed….ALSO…if you set it…once you turn the camera OFF- the camera resets itself to factory settings…when you turn it back on…reset it again. Cameras will not go back to the setting you used. Found that out the hard way at a chickenfoot show…lol. Its also about the position of your arms. They will get tired….even holding 1lb for 2 hours…trust me!!

Hey Paul, I have to check it out a bit closer but I believe the cams we have have a way of saving settings. I know I stumbled on it when playing with the cam after the MSG show but never got back into it. If it does have that ability it would be great.


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March 17, 2012 at 2:07 pm Quote #8224

fletch
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mrmojohalen: That would be interesting – all ED for the whole show. Even during Al’s solo & ICM, look for ED lurking on the side of the stage. :mrgreen:

that would be cool for a multi-cam!


Why settle for a can? When you can drink straight from the bottle….
By the Bottle….
BTB Productions


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March 17, 2012 at 6:13 pm Quote #8232

bluntforcetrauma
(188)

how does a 6″ stand help? wouldnt you want it longer?

Or do you anchor the 6″ stand from belt or chest?
where would be the stabilization point of contact with the 6″ stand?

If you increase the lever arm such as a (6inch)stand you increase stability of the entire camera. Without a stand or some sort of extended grip you will decrease lever arm and thus decrease stability. Longer the lever arm the better the stability.
For example, say someone hurt there left leg and needs to use a cane to walk?You would put the cane in your right hand so as you advance your left leg forward the cane would act as an increased lever arm from your left hip joint thus increasing stability.

but back to a monopod or something of the like?
What would one use?
how long should it be?
Can you run it up thru your shirt and place at level as needed?
thanks in advance


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March 17, 2012 at 6:18 pm Quote #8233

radikal
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mrmojohalen: That would be interesting – all ED for the whole show.

Even during Al’s solo & ICM, look for ED lurking on the side of the stage.:mrgreen:



For the Montreal show Pete focused on Ed through out the show :-)


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March 17, 2012 at 6:32 pm Quote #8236

Decatone
(1412)

guitard: Dammit ~ you ruined my surprise!!Seriously – that is exactly what I plan on doing in Chicago.I’m going to zoom in so that the only thing in the screen is Ed’s guitar.Occasionally, I’m going to zoom in even closer on his picking or fretting hand – but generally speaking, I think that shots with only one hand in them only give you half the picture, so to speak, so I only do that sparingly. My favorite shot is when a guitarist is playing high notes where both hands are close together and you can zoom in nice and close and get both hands in the shot.

Now I just have to hope I don’t have a 6’8″ guy right in front of me who wants to lean over and yell into his buddy’s ear every 30 seconds – which is what happened in Grand Rapids the last time I saw the mighty VH.

Randy this is way cool if you can pull it off even just a couple of songs …a guitar players dream. I know forums who dissect Ed’s eruption still to this day, slowing solos down, tabbing and discussing pick technique, pages and pages long. :-P


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March 17, 2012 at 6:47 pm Quote #8238

guitard
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I plan on shooting Ed the same way I shot Michael Schenker in this video:



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March 17, 2012 at 7:14 pm Quote #8241

fletch
(657)

bluntforcetrauma: how does a 6″ stand help? wouldnt you want it longer?Or do you anchor the 6″ stand from belt or chest?where would be the stabilization point of contact with the 6″ stand?If you increase the lever arm such as a (6inch)stand you increase stability of the entire camera. Without a stand or some sort of extended grip you will decrease lever arm and thus decrease stability. Longer the lever arm the better the stability.For example, say someone hurt there left leg and needs to use a cane to walk?You would put the cane in your right hand so as you advance your left leg forward the cane would act as an increased lever arm from your left hip joint thus increasing stability.but back to a monopod or something of the like?What would one use?how long should it be?Can you run it up thru your shirt and place at level as needed?thanks in advance

6″ is fine to get into a concert. I think you would have a hard time walking through security with a 2 foot mono pod closed. They might think its a batton and deny you. I would love to get one into a show…. I used to shorten mine up and rest it on my leg while sitting. Works well for clubs too when sitting at a bar stool.


Why settle for a can? When you can drink straight from the bottle….
By the Bottle….
BTB Productions


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