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November 20, 2016 at 8:40 am Quote #54808

guitard
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So I started authoring shows for another filmer and he only wants blu-rays of shows he shot in HD. I told him that for CBG, I author both DVD and blu-ray versions of all shows shot in HD – and he said there’s no need for DVD versions – people need to get with the times. I will say this – it’s a lot less work for me if I don’t have to do DVD versions. People started uploading blu-rays to Dime around seven years ago. So maybe it is time …


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November 20, 2016 at 9:56 am Quote #54809

sbnitro
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If I have a choice,I’ll go with blu-ray every time.


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November 20, 2016 at 5:02 pm Quote #54814

mcs5150
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The only issue is that downloading blu-rays off of Dime will destroy most people’s ratio pretty damn quickly.


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November 20, 2016 at 6:48 pm Quote #54815

JasonA
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Blu-ray is the way to go.


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November 20, 2016 at 7:40 pm Quote #54816

jroundy
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Definitely Blu-ray…. and all you need is a Dropbox account to get the show.

I haven’t used DIME in years.


The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!!


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November 20, 2016 at 8:10 pm Quote #54818

guitard
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mcs5150: The only issue is that downloading blu-rays off of Dime will destroy most people’s ratio pretty damn quickly.


The landscape at Dime has changed in the last 3-4 years as several people have acquired seed boxes which allows a small group of leechers to completely dominate (probably 80-90%) of the uploading for a torrent. Obviously, this has created an unlevel playing field; which is unfortunate because Dime has a share ratio requirement. I have suggested eliminating the share ratio requirement several times at Dime’s Yahoo mailing list, but it gets shot down in short order every time. Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people out there with the mindset that “it isn’t fair if you don’t pay anything back.” I argue that ten years ago, it was essential that people pay back (in bandwidth) at least part of what they took – and if they didn’t – the site wouldn’t function smoothly. Because of the aforementioned seed boxes, however, that paradigm has shifted. In spite of the paradigm shift – people are still stuck in the old mindset. Essentially, my contention is that if Dime eliminated the share ration requirement – downloading operations would still run just fine. And in spite of all the people who would essentially only be giving back a tiny bit of what they took in bandwidth – you could still download whatever you wanted. Hopefully someday soon, the people who run Dime will see the light.


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November 20, 2016 at 10:15 pm Quote #54819

videoman320
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guitard: So I started authoring shows for another filmer and he only wants blu-rays of shows he shot in HD.I told him that for CBG, I author both DVD and blu-ray versions of all shows shot in HD – and he said there’s no need for DVD versions – people need to get with the times.I will say this – it’s a lot less work for me if I don’t have to do DVD versions.People started uploading blu-rays to Dime around seven years ago.So maybe it is time …

People are with the times. The vast majority of people use their cable box for dvr recording. Stand alone recorders in homes are far and few between now. That is why blu ray hasn’t taken over and never will. I think blu ray is great but again guys like us who collect live concert bootlegs are a small part of the population and getting even smaller every year. Hardly any of my friends have blu ray players. I’ve shown them the difference in quality but most of them say its nice but don’t need it.


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November 20, 2016 at 10:48 pm Quote #54820

guitard
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videoman320: People are with the times. The vast majority of people use their cable box for dvr recording. Stand alone recorders in homes are far and few between now. That is why blu ray hasn’t taken over and never will. I think blu ray is great but again guys like us who collect live concert bootlegs are a small part of the population and getting even smaller every year. Hardly any of my friends have blu ray players. I’ve shown them the difference in quality but most of them say its nice but don’t need it.


This discussion isn’t really relevant to stand alone recorders or DVR boxes – it’s about getting something from a concert filmer’s HD camera to a collector to enjoy. I know that not many people actually burn things anymore, so instead of saying blu-ray, I probably should have just said HD, because that’s what I was really getting at: embracing HD – and no longer down-converting it to standard definition (which is what I still do for all the HD videos that I author).

As far as people not wanting HD/blu-ray quality … I can only scratch my head. Because to me, the difference is like night and day. Step it up to 4K HD and it’s just that much better (I have a 4K video cam and I’m amazed at the quality).


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November 20, 2016 at 11:48 pm Quote #54821

mcs5150
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jroundy: Definitely Blu-ray…. and all you need is a Dropbox account to get the show.

I haven’t used DIME in years.

You can rely on dropbox if you are a member here. What if CBG etc mandated that from now on blu-ray only and only uploaded to Dime? People’s ratio will be screwed very quickly.


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November 21, 2016 at 2:07 am Quote #54824

guitard
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mcs5150: You can rely on dropbox if you are a member here. What if CBG etc mandated that from now on blu-ray only and only uploaded to Dime? People’s ratio will be screwed very quickly.


CBG shot a couple thousand shows in the pre-HD era, so it’s only his more recent shows that can even be authored to blu-ray.

And just for the sake of discussion … if a guy shoots a show in HD and only authors it to blu-ray because that’s all he wants or needs for himself, and then freely offers that blu-ray at Dime, who are we to say he also owes us a standard definition DVD version?

There is a flip side to this – if you are only going to author a blu-ray version of a show – then don’t bitch when someone downloads the blu-ray and uses it to author a standard definition DVD (and guaranteed – that’s going to happen).


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November 21, 2016 at 6:54 am Quote #54825

mcs5150
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I personally subscribe to the theory that the taper and people who author the shows owe us absolutely nothing. If s/he only wants blu-ray shows that is fine with me. My only issue with the whole blu-ray thing is the ratio aspect at Dime, which does not seem like it will change soon.


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November 21, 2016 at 9:01 am Quote #54826

guitard
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CBG also uploads all of his shows to The Traders Den – and they don’t have a share ratio requirement. So you can always count on that.


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November 21, 2016 at 12:58 pm Quote #54827

frankm
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guitard: if a guy shoots a show in HD and only authors it to blu-ray because that’s all he wants or needs for himself, and then freely offers that blu-ray at Dime, who are we to say he also owes us a standard definition DVD version?

People need to get over it cuz no one owes you nuthin’.

I don’t have a blu ray burner so i don’t download blu rays … yes I’m old school and actually burn discs.

I see a ton of frreakin’ GnR blu rays … more than any other band which I find surprising for some reason.


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November 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm Quote #54831

guitard
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frankm:

I see a ton of frreakin’ GnR blu rays … more than any other band which I find surprising for some reason.


I assume you’re referring to the 2016 tour. I can’t really say I’m surprised – as almost everyone shooting video these days is shooting in HD – and it’s becoming pretty common to own an HD tv (can you even buy a new tv these days that isn’t HD?).


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November 22, 2016 at 10:01 am Quote #54838

dogtown
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I’ve loved getting the Blu-ray’s that Randy allows us to get from Dropbox and I’m eternally grateful for those but I do agree with mcs5150 regarding Dime – there’s no way I could maintain a ratio over there downloading Blu-ray’s.

guitard: CBG also uploads all of his shows to The Traders Den – and they don’t have a share ratio requirement.So you can always count on that.

I haven’t been over there in a while but I know they certainly used to have a share ratio requirement, has that definitely been scrapped now?


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