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May 2, 2023 at 2:09 pm Quote #66428

alancberry
(62)

When Sammy Hagar joined Van Halen, did Michael Anthony reclaim the publishing rights he lost in 1984?
I know the four all owned a piece of their publishing company, Yessup Music Company, but were they equal shares? I get the writing credits were shared, but I really want to know was the publishing was shared equally.

Thanks for any help with this question.


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May 2, 2023 at 7:22 pm Quote #66429

kaloway
(2009)

I thought Mike signed away his rights for the 2004 Reunion tour with Sam.


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May 2, 2023 at 8:51 pm Quote #66430

VOODOO
(2374)

Mike signed away his writing/publishing for or before the BOV1 or possibly the first remasters. The credits for the BOV1 list tracks 1-6 written by Ed, Al, Dave, Mike. Tracks 7-8 (Jump and Panama) written by Ed, Al, Dave,


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May 2, 2023 at 10:26 pm Quote #66431

unchainedheart
(1912)

From Noel Monk:Noel E. Monk wrote in his book “Runnin’ with the Devil”. In it he states that the Van Halen brothers (along with David Lee Roth) gave Michael Anthony an ultimatum right around the time the “1984” album came out. In a nutshell, they did not believe Michael’s contributions to the band’s music entitled him to an equal 1/4 split of the profits, so they drew-up a contract that stipulated that he would no longer share in any royalties from Van Halen recordings from the “1984” album on, and I believe it also limited what he would receive from the previous records, touring, and merchandise sales as well. In effect, while Michael would technically still be in the band, he would essentially become a paid employee from that point on. If Michael refused to sign the contract, he was out. By Noel’s account, Michael immediately agreed, signed the contract, and the rest was history
From Blabbermouth:https://blabbermouth.net/news/michael-anthony-says-friendship-with-sammy-hagar-got-him-booted-from-van-halen
Anthony explains, “Some VAN HALEN fans say I left the band to hook up with Sammy, but I never said, ‘I quit.’ There was nothing going on in the VAN HALEN camp, but Eddie kinda backed me up against a wall. . . Eddie felt that I was a traitor. I helped hook Sammy back up with them for the 2004 reunion tour, but Eddie didn’t want me to be a part of that originally, so I took a big pay cut. I’m not crying, I didn’t need the money. I did that because I wanted to play for the fans. I signed away any legal rights I had with the name, the trademark or whatever. I did it because if that was the last time VAN HALEN would ever be on stage, I wanted to be part of it.”
Wikipedia:The tour also signaled the declining relationship of bassist Michael Anthony with Eddie and Alex Van Halen.[4] During the 2004 tour, Anthony was forced to lose his licensing rights to the band and to take a pay cut due to tensions with the Van Halen brothers.[4][5]


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May 4, 2023 at 12:28 am Quote #66434

VOODOO
(2374)

Maybe for that album? Mike still got credit for the other Roth era albums and subsequent Hagar albums. Wasn’t this around the time Michael McDonald was finally given credit for writing the lyrics for I’ll Wait? I thought all of this shit started during the battles between the Roth and Sam camps over BOV1 and the beginning of the VHIII planning when Ray Daniels was basically telling Ed and Al that everyone was out to get them. My memory is very spotty at this point. I am probably way off?!


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May 4, 2023 at 3:22 am Quote #66435

unchainedheart
(1912)

Same here,i read a lot of V-H books but can’t remember the dates that those things happened.


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