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March 6, 2015 at 11:38 am Quote #43224
mjk2112 (335)	sickman Agreed! here is version of the AC show 2012 most of my video and all of my audio! boldly going nowhere mjk2112Quote
March 6, 2015 at 12:37 pm Quote #43225
jroundy (1418)	voodoo: It’s obvious that the DLR social media pages have gone black, because they didn’t want an onslaught of negative comments flooding his pages in response to the live VH album. I am getting emails and messages from friends of mine who like VH, but aren’t die hards and they think this whole live album release is a joke saying, “There is no way they would actually release this recording?! It’s horrible!” and “They’re a little early for April Fools Day” and “Strange decision to release such a poor quality recording” and most tellingly, “Looks like Eddie is trying to put the final nail in the DLR coffin”. Everyone seems to have the same opinion. This is the swan song for the band, pulling the curtain back on the DLR charade. I shouldn’t have to say it, but I am a Roth era diehard, but I have said all along his vocals were the weak link (when Ed was playing well). Now it seems they’re trying to force it into everyone’s face and send him off to pasture. As with everything VH related, only time will tell. Sadly I agree. This will release will tarnish Van Halen’s legacy…. I just don’t get why they didn’t fix Dave’s vocal’s. The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!! jroundyQuote
March 6, 2015 at 12:39 pm Quote #43226
jroundy (1418)	voodoo: Playing devil’s advocate, if they released a polished up version of this with the plethora of bootlegged recordings already out there, I think the backlash would be worse. It would be another, “It’s not really live” bitchfest. It’s hard to judge the longterm ramifacations of this one. I disagree…. only we would know the difference. The general public wouldn’t have a clue. We are a small group of diehard fans, we don’t represent the general public. The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!! jroundyQuote
March 6, 2015 at 12:45 pm Quote #43227
jroundy (1418)	sickman: Last night I finally listened to all of RWTD and Panama on the new live cd and yes Dave’s vocals are rough in parts but honestly no different from the countless bootlegs we all heard from 2012/2013 so I personally don’t feel all that shocked or let down. Ed, Al and Wolf are just about spot on and sound great. Yes, Dave is the weak link in the band from an audio stand point but Van Halen with Dave is something to not just be heard but to be seen and that’s why it boggles my mind that they didn’t release a Live DVD of either this show or even one of the 2 MSG shows. Seeing night 2 of the MSG show in 2012 was an awesome experience. The band and Dave were all great that night. I realize they didn’t film MSG but they should have. I believe there is no live DVD because it would cost the band too much to make. These two tracks released sound like they are recordings straight from the soundboard. How much could that cost? Nothing really. I can’t believe a record company is going to make the CD’s???? The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!! jroundyQuote
March 6, 2015 at 12:52 pm Quote #43228
jroundy (1418)	dhull5150: As much as I love Dave both with and without VH, this release is just bumming me out. There is so much shit being talked on Dave all around the internet and I feel bad for the guy. I like the Sammy era too and as much as I want to continue to see the original singer with the band, I also kind of wish Sammy would return. I expect hate for that comment but if he did return I would be willing to bet that the live show would be fantastic. I just think if Dave’s vocals stay the same or get worse, this band is going to keep releasing things that tarnish their legacy. I would rather they get a Dave clone…. like Michael Starr aka Ralph Saenz, then bring back Sammy. Nothing against Sam, but the music with Dave is far better, and Sammy just doesn’t do Dave. The guy that replaced Steve Perry in Journey, Arnel, sounds awesome, and the general public loved it. The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!! jroundyQuote
March 6, 2015 at 12:53 pm Quote #43229
ron (11511)	jroundy: I believe there is no live DVD because it would cost the band too much to make. These two tracks released sound like they are recordings straight from the soundboard.How much could that cost?Nothing really. Ding. This is the cheapest thing they could do. Grab some cheap artwork, run a soundboard show to disc and call it done. The ask ($20 for 2 discs) is seriously out of line with the product being offered, but that’s because they want the largest return for the least effort. It’s just a cash grab. But it’s a minor one because only the die-hards will buy it. The casual fan won’t even know it exists. ronQuote
March 6, 2015 at 1:00 pm Quote #43230
jroundy (1418)	ron: Ding. This is the cheapest thing they could do.Grab some cheap artwork, run a soundboard show to disc and call it done.The ask ($20 for 2 discs) is seriously out of line with the product being offered, but that’s because they want the largest return for the least effort.It’s just a cash grab.But it’s a minor one because only the die-hards will buy it.The casual fan won’t even know it exists. What makes everything worse…. is that I don’t think they touched the soundboard recording. It literally sounds exactly like they hooked up a recording device to the soundboard, and they are releasing that!! Anybody here who has recording equipment to record bootlegs, could have made this recording if they had access to plug into the soundboard. It’s really disturbing that they would do this, unless they’re intent is to embarrass Dave…. and that is still fucked up big time. The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!! jroundyQuote
March 6, 2015 at 1:34 pm Quote #43233
sickman (2380)	dhull5150: As much as I love Dave both with and without VH, this release is just bumming me out. There is so much shit being talked on Dave all around the internet and I feel bad for the guy. I like the Sammy era too and as much as I want to continue to see the original singer with the band, I also kind of wish Sammy would return. I expect hate for that comment but if he did return I would be willing to bet that the live show would be fantastic. I just think if Dave’s vocals stay the same or get worse, this band is going to keep releasing things that tarnish their legacy. You won’t get hate from me for that comment and I am a die hard Dave fan. That being said, at this point in the game I wouldn’t mind seeing them tour once again with Sam as this scenario would also be the only way i believe we would ever see Mike back in the picture. I say at this point in the game because of the shape Eddie is in and the age of these old fucks! Eddie is playing great these days, light years from 2004 and what can be said about Al, he’s solid. Actually my only complaint about Al and it may not be that up to him is his lack of improvisation in his playing compared to say 1979/1980. sickmanQuote
March 6, 2015 at 2:32 pm Quote #43237
Dutchie (1767)	ron: Ding. This is the cheapest thing they could do.Grab some cheap artwork, run a soundboard show to disc and call it done.The ask ($20 for 2 discs) is seriously out of line with the product being offered, but that’s because they want the largest return for the least effort.It’s just a cash grab.But it’s a minor one because only the die-hards will buy it.The casual fan won’t even know it exists. Remember, this IS what the fans wanted… Go back and read some fan reviews of this show when they played it. Everyone said that they should chuck on some labels, design a cover and release it as is. If I had a dollar for every time I read that I’d be a millionaire. The last few shows of the last tour were the best (DLR wise) by far. If they re did the vocals, they would cop shit and now that they haven’t, they cop shit… What they should do is pull the fucking thing and fuck everybody…That’s what I would do. I wouldn’t be expecting the vault doors opening anytime soon now (not that they were going to be opened anyway) but I think this might be it now… DutchieQuote
March 6, 2015 at 4:38 pm Quote #43245
VAiN (2777)	jroundy: It’s really disturbing that they would do this, unless they’re intent is to embarrass Dave…. and that is still fucked up big time. I believe that’s Ed’s goal. Mission accomplished. Resident dickhead. I will hurt your delicate feelings. VAiNQuote
March 6, 2015 at 6:51 pm Quote #43252
wjamflan (1089)	VAiN: I believe that’s Ed’s goal. Mission accomplished. I love when people blame Ed for everything. When Ed was messed up and didn’t play up to snuff in 2004 and 2007, it was his fault. He was crackheaded “sister” at that point in time, not just an addict. Now, when Dave sings poorly, it’s also Ed’s fault. Furthermore, it’s his conspiracy. Ha ha. Ed wants to ruin the band that bears his name by embarrassing Dave because he’s the only one with any say in the band. Sure thing. It couldn’t just be that Dave embarrassed Dave (and the band) by making poor singing choices for whatever reason, stubbornness, for example. Ed stood behind him for the past 8 years and forced him bleat and beat the VH catalog to death. We’re right back to the typical VH fan scapegoating we saw with the departures of Sammy and Mike. And nobody’s even left this time. The product is just not up to snuff, so it’s just gotta be Ed’s fault. Sad….. “This hamburger don’t need no helper.” – DLR 5/17/15 wjamflanQuote
March 6, 2015 at 7:37 pm Quote #43256
JasonA (1105)	The thing is, Dave sang really good in 2007, better than I ever saw him do on any of his solo tours. To have the best of everything, ideally, I’d want a live album with Dave’s vocals from 2007 and Ed’s playing from 2012. Along with the improv jams they did in 2007, and the deep album cuts (Full Bug, Hear About It Later, Girl Gone Bad, etc.) they broke out in 2012. JasonAQuote
March 6, 2015 at 9:25 pm Quote #43260
Dutchie (1767)	VAiN: I believe that’s Ed’s goal. Mission accomplished. Why would Ed want to embarrass Dave? If Dave didn’t want this released, it wouldn’t be. If his intent was to embarrass Dave, he is also smearing his name, his son’s name, his brother’s name & his dad’s name… I cant believe people come up with this shit… DutchieQuote
March 6, 2015 at 10:39 pm Quote #43263
mrmojohalen (6389)	Actually, Dave sounds good compared to many of the 2012 shows in the US. Darn blowers. When you turn on your stereo, does it return the favor? mrmojohalenQuote
March 7, 2015 at 9:04 am Quote #43267
wjamflan (1089)	JasonA: The thing is, Dave sang really good in 2007, better than I ever saw him do on any of his solo tours. I agree with this to a point. It was miles better than 2012-13. He just made other embarrassing choices in 2007 like the Gary-ish stagecraft, the stupid hats, the weird jackets, the creepy, strained smile, and the more occasional screeches out of his range. My only point in saying anything is that these are all choices that Dave has been making. If he made other choices, he would be fine and the band would sound good. Unfortunately, it seems like he’s forgotten how to be cool and lost his ears. It’s embarrassing because he was so cool back in the day, in a surfer/stoner/Spicoli-with-a-brain sort of way. He’s not aging gracefully, from the entertainment/entertainer perspective. And that seriously blows. One thing is for damn sure: NONE of Dave’s choices are Ed’s fault. “This hamburger don’t need no helper.” – DLR 5/17/15 wjamflanQuote

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