Van Halen: Exuberant California, Zen Rock 'n' Roll

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April 10, 2012 at 9:31 am Quote #10069

ron
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Anyone have this book yet? (out in the UK, but not in the USA yet)
If so, how is it?



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May 15, 2012 at 2:23 pm Quote #13265

ron
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My copy arrived, and I’ve only just thumbed through it, but it looks interesting.


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May 15, 2012 at 3:02 pm Quote #13268

mcs5150
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ron:
My copy arrived, and I’ve only just thumbed through it, but it looks interesting.

Once you have read it, give us your thoughts. I am tempted to buy it.


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May 15, 2012 at 3:13 pm Quote #13272

ron
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Review of the book (not in English). Supposedly says something like:
“Making unlikely connections between Van Halen and movements as seemingly remote as the Beats and Bebop, Scanlan convincingly makes the case that the relationship between Roth and Eddie Van Halen reveals something of the essence of California … it is a tale concerned with the ‘art of artlessness’, and the importance that living in the now had always assumed in the culture of California.”

Pics of the book:



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July 14, 2012 at 5:38 pm Quote #17023

ron
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http://bostonglobe.com/ideas/2012/07/14/the-philosophical-contributions-van-halen/qKBZjTakouycEy0UjkaFsM/story.html

Van Halen: Monsters of philosophy
By Keith O’Brien
July 15, 2012

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Van Halen performs circa 1970. From left, Michael Anthony, David Lee Roth, and Eddie Van Halen.
Larry Hulst/Getty Images

At the peak of Van Halen’s popularity almost 30 years ago, few people considered the band to be artists, much less philosophers. Van Halen was just a rock ‘n’ roll band: a guitar-riffing, hard-drinking, skirt-chasing quartet known for huge hits, catchy hooks, and one pouty-lipped, big-haired front man, David Lee Roth.

Roth became something of a media darling at the dawn of the video age–a one-man quote machine in spandex and tattered shirts. If founder Eddie Van Halen was the band’s quiet guitar hero, Diamond Dave was the vaudevillian clown.

For six years, from 1978 to 1984, few rock bands were bigger: In 1983, one concert alone reportedly netted the band $1.5 million. The following year, the band released 1984, its most popular album to date, and “Jump” quickly became a number one single, spending five weeks at the top of the US charts. If you were alive then, you probably still know the words (“I get up/ And nothing gets me down”) and the song’s opening synthesizer riff by heart. But poetry it was not. It was just the ’80s.

Now a new book by British sociologist John Scanlan is suggesting that we’ve misunderstood Van Halen all these years–or at least not given the band its due. Roth and his comrades weren’t just hard rockers, Scanlan argues, but avatars of a kind of philosophy.

In “Van Halen: Exuberant California, Zen Rock ‘n’ Roll” (Reaktion Books 2012), Scanlan, a senior lecturer in sociology at Manchester Metropolitan University in England, argues that Van Halen were purveyors of what he calls Zen rock, worthy of comparisons to the Beat poets–if not for the work they created, then at least for their state of mind. “Van Halen’s exuberance,” Scanlan writes, “produced a kind of ‘unthinking,’ unassuming–but often exhilarating–rock ‘n’ roll that was evocative of its time and place.” He believes it was pure 1970s Southern California, where the band met and formed. “But like much of California culture,” Scanlan adds, “it was touched by a Zen-like attitude to everyday life.”

David Lee Roth ‘was an adherent of Zen philosophy and had been since he was a teenager.’

Van Halen might seem an unlikely candidate for a serious book by an academic sociologist. Such treatments are generally reserved for acts like Bob Dylan or the Beatles. But as the author explains it, it wasn’t really a choice. Scanlan said he had to write the book. He’s 47. He grew up listening to Van Halen in Lanark, Scotland, and couldn’t shake the music’s hold on him–even three decades later.

He spoke to Ideas from his home in Manchester.

IDEAS: How much Van Halen music did you have to download off iTunes to prepare for this book?

SCANLAN: Zero. None. Because I already had it all. I still had all my old records.

IDEAS: Your neighbors must have thought it odd to hear all this Van Halen music coming through a scholar’s walls.

SCANLAN: I happen to live in the top floor of a building. No one can hear me, whatever I do. But it was interesting because I would listen to it and find that I would be almost thrust back into 1980, when I was 16 years old. I’d listen to the music very loud. I’d want to kind of drink and smoke and do all these things that you’re not supposed to do when you’re a responsible adult.

IDEAS: You suggest that Van Halen believed in a certain kind of rock ‘n’ roll–a “Zen-like idea,” you call it, that was “attached to the creative unconscious” and an answer to rock’s “growing seriousness in the 1970s.” Is that giving the band too much credit?

SCANLAN: Not at all. It’s there in the statements the band–Roth, in particular–has made over the years. It’s all there. It’s just a matter of stitching it together.

IDEAS: Were these guys really deep thinkers, pondering their place in the music universe?

SCANLAN: No, they weren’t. There’s a quotation in there from David Lee Roth from back in 1978–it’s in their first story in Rolling Stone–and he said the point is to keep it as stupid, as simplistic, and as unassuming as possible. He was an adherent of Zen philosophy and had been since he was a teenager. And that’s a big part of my book.

IDEAS: At times in the book you compare the band to the Beat poets and to Jack Kerouac. Is that a stretch?

SCANLAN: I’m not necessarily saying look at the lyrics that David Lee Roth writes and look at the books that Kerouac’s written; it’s more to do with the artistic process. There’s a similarity in terms of the process. But then you’ve got the historical and biographical connection. Roth actually spent quite a lot of time in Greenwich Village. He was around there at the time of the dying embers of the Beat movement.

IDEAS: Kerouac fans might cringe at the idea that David Lee Roth is somehow like him.

SCANLAN: They may indeed. But if you look at Kerouac’s aesthetics–what he said about the creative process, what he said about the influence of Zen on the Beat movement, and the importance he placed on jive as a means of expression–David Lee Roth is all those things in his own way as well. I wouldn’t say he’s a Beat poet. But he shares that attitude.

IDEAS: Van Halen just wrapped up a reunion tour. The critics, more often than not, panned the shows. The general sentiment was that Eddie Van Halen was still an incredible guitarist, but Roth was a mess.

SCANLAN: It doesn’t surprise me because Roth was always more about being up there on stage and being a cheerleader, a toastmaster kind of figure. And he never, ever, nailed the songs on stage the way they were on the record.

IDEAS: Do you feel like David Lee Roth is misunderstood?

SCANLAN: That’s quite an interesting question. People thought he was a bit nuts, a bit over the top….He’s an odd person, you know? He trains sheepdogs.

IDEAS: Apparently, he spent a lot of time on this last tour haranguing the audience about his love of sheepdogs.

SCANLAN: Yeah. He’s a strange guy, David Lee Roth.


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July 14, 2012 at 7:01 pm Quote #17027

wjamflan
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I’m about half way through the book. It’s very interesting, if somewhat high brow. I like that though, because there are so few (if any) serious studies of Van Halen, the band. There are not a lot of new bits of info, but he does make some really wild connections. Worth it if you are interested…..


“This hamburger don’t need no helper.” – DLR 5/17/15


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July 14, 2012 at 7:20 pm Quote #17028

guitard
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I’m not what you’d call a book lover. I don’t read many books actually. But I have read several Jack Kerouac books and “On The Road” is one of my two all-time favorite books (the other being Henry Miller’s “Tropic Of Cancer”).

I can see where this guy is going with the comparisons to Kerouac.

I would encourage anyone here to read Kerouac’s book “On The Road.” Here is some info on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_road


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July 14, 2012 at 9:45 pm Quote #17036

Gilligan
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I can accept the argument that DLR has/is some kind of genius that is lost on most people. History may someday prove that – who knows? Fortunately, Eddie is also a genius that we can already see and understand currently.


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July 14, 2012 at 10:48 pm Quote #17043

mrmojohalen
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The photo is from 1982, not circa 1970. 8-O


When you turn on your stereo, does it return the favor?


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July 14, 2012 at 11:17 pm Quote #17050

jroundy
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mrmojohalen:
The photo is from 1982, not circa 1970.8-O

Yes….major screw up there.


The poor folks play for keeps down here…They’re the living dead. Nobody rules these streets at night like Van Halen!!


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August 1, 2012 at 7:56 pm Quote #17756

ron
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Started reading this book today. At least so far, it’s kind of like a history lesson about the SoCal music scene with plenty of VH stories thrown in to tie it all together. It’s not strictly about VH. I think the one Amazon review sums it up pretty well (even if I haven’t read it all the way through yet).
http://www.amazon.com/Van-Halen-Exuberant-California-Reaktion/product-reviews/1861899165/

It’s also available for the Kindle now too.


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August 2, 2012 at 4:15 am Quote #17769

mcs5150
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ron:
Started reading this book today.At least so far, it’s kind of like a history lesson about the SoCal music scene with plenty of VH stories thrown in to tie it all together.It’s not strictly about VH.I think the one Amazon review sums it up pretty well (even if I haven’t read it all the way through yet).
http://www.amazon.com/Van-Halen-Exuberant-California-Reaktion/product-reviews/1861899165/

It’s also available for the Kindle now too.

And now that it is on the Kindle I will be buying it. Thanks for the info Ron.


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