DLR: Stories (part 2)

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December 3, 2021 at 11:12 pm Quote #64957

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December 4, 2021 at 7:50 am Quote #64959

PT5150
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So Dave says the stripes on Ed’s guitars is his work..
I’d like to hear a interview with Al on this and how he and Dave talk regularly on the phone considering Wolf said recently he and Dave have not spoken for 6 years.


EDDIE’S fingers aren’t fingers they are muscle-powered pistons that hammer guitar strings to the fretboard with the force of a rivet gun”.


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December 4, 2021 at 7:54 am Quote #64960

Dave
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He’s really pushing the narrative, again, that he came up with the stripes and other now other design features of the Frankenstein guitar. Is anyone else having trouble believing this?

Oh and he never lets a moment pass where he doesn’t mention that he’s talking to Alex on a daily basis.

EDIT: PT5150 I just read your post. Glad I’m not the only one!


Stay Frosty


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December 5, 2021 at 1:53 am Quote #64964

Dutchie
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Roth mentioned that it was his idea to stripe Eds guitar years ago on his old radio show. This is not new news. Dont know why Roth would lie about it.

I’m sure if it wasn’t true, Ed or someone would if said something about it before. Ed didnt paint the 5150 or the HFT or the Kramer Add (plus others) either…

Dave probably hasnt spoken to WVH because they are not friends… Dave was fiends with Ed and Al, not their kids… I doubt Daves has spoken to any of Al’s kids recently too.


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December 6, 2021 at 8:02 pm Quote #64976

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http://www.guitarworld.com/news/david-lee-roth-frankenstein-claims-disputed

David Lee Roth claims the Frankenstein’s stripes were his design, but his story just doesn’t add up — here’s why
By Matt Owen
Published 2021-12-06 17:54:29

Chris Gill, author of Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen and EVH guitar expert, has labeled Roth’s account “a complete revisionist fabrication”

On Saturday (December 4), David Lee Roth posted a seven-minute video in which he recalled in great detail the origin story behind Eddie Van Halen’s Frankenstein electric guitar, claiming he was the brains behind the iconic striped aesthetic.

The video was posted in response to comments that drew comparison between Roth’s Big Wave painting and the Frankenstein, with the former Van Halen vocalist dubbing the guitar’s striped motif “my work”.

However, his story has since been disputed by Chris Gill — Guitar World contributor, EVH guitar expert and co-author of Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen — who blasted Roth’s recollection as “a complete revisionist fabrication” that contains “three key factual errors”.

In Roth’s video, the singer recalled that Van Halen’s original guitar featured a white finish, and claimed he suggested an “expanding linear pattern” in the mid–’70s in a bid to differentiate it from Jimi Hendrix’s own Fender Stratocaster.

“Because this was like mid-’70s — ’75, ’76ish — I said to Ed, ‘An expanding linear pattern,’ because the white, plain guitar is eerily reminiscent of Jimi Hendrix, and at that point in time Hendrix was still very nearby having recently departed,” Roth claimed.

The frontman also said that he “walked in with three rolls of tape: one roll of grey duct tape, one roll of black electrician’s tape, and one roll of blue tape that we used for pinstriping”.

In response to Roth’s comments, Gill offered a comprehensive rebuttal, telling Guitar World, “Three key factual errors in Roth’s statement prove that his story is a complete revisionist fabrication.”

Referencing “accurately dated photographic evidence”, Gill notes that “Van Halen’s Frankenstein guitar did not appear until February 1977″ — not in ’75 or ’76 as Roth claimed — and originally had an unfinished, rather than white, body that was later photographed in May of that year with an all-black colorway.

Though Gill confirmed Van Halen had a 1961 Fender Stratocaster that was painted white in January 1977, he went on to say that it “existed for less than a month”.

“The white ’61 Strat was taken apart very soon afterwards,” he explained, “with its neck, serial number plate, and vibrato tailpiece/bridge showing up in Feb ’77 on the unfinished Frankenstein body.”

Later in Roth’s video, the vocalist posited the stripes were created by spraying red and black paint on to the white body.

Gill, meanwhile, argued Roth “gets this essential detail completely wrong”, and that the stripes were created by applying masking tape and spraying white paint on to the black-finished Frankenstein body.

And, in response to Roth’s assertion that he used three different types of tape on the white body — specifically the blue variant for pinstriping — Gill noted such tape was not invented until 1988. By this point in time, Roth had been out of Van Halen for three years.

“Because it didn’t even exist yet,” Gill said, “there is no way Ed could have used 3M blue tape, neither in the summer of 1977 when he first painted the black and white stripe motif nor in March of 1979 when he added the red coats of paint to the Frankenstein finish.

“In fact, Ed used torn strips of gaffer tape when applying the red coat — a piece of that gaffer tape still remains on the guitar.”

In his video, Roth does admit he hasn’t “looked at the guitar in years, and I haven’t done research,” noting that the clip “isn’t a science lesson… just my memory.”

For more information on how one of the most iconic guitars in rock was actually put together, check out Gill’s article on the true origins and evolution of Eddie Van Halen’s legendary Frankenstein.
http://www.guitarworld.com/features/eddie-van-halen-frankenstein-origins


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December 6, 2021 at 8:52 pm Quote #64977

unchainedheart
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Here’s another take from Dave in his role in the “Frankenstrat” striped paint at 10:43

0:00:00 – Caller wonders how much good music would’ve been made with Dave post 1996
0:01:54 – Dave wonders if Van Halen could make a good album with him now
0:03:48 – Discussing Queen’s influence on Van Halen
0:10:43 – Dave’s role in Van Halen / Dave coming up with the idea for Eddie’s striped guitar
0:12:40 – Does Sammy Hagar cut it?
0:13:36 – How do Dave and Van Halen get along?
0:16:44 – Meth ruined Van Halen
0:18:02 – Dave’s idea to call the band “Van Halen”
0:20:04 – Should they have called it Van Halen with Hagar on vocals?
0:20:53 – Signature sounds
0:22:12 – Van Halen RockStar Rumor Dispelled


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December 8, 2021 at 3:15 pm Quote #64996

kaloway
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I don’t know about the striping of the guitar, but I know that Ed could never have come up with Eruption on his own. I do believe Dave walked Ed through the song step by step. Even taking the time to introduce Ed to tapping the strings for a unique sound. Seriously, call Al for confirmation of this because him and Dave were just talking about it last week and the week before, and the week before on the phone.


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January 3, 2022 at 10:56 pm Quote #65082

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January 17, 2023 at 11:13 pm Quote #66162

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